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omg, somehow I missed this for blue

They don't want you to realize that, lol

These aren't it. Honestly, they're not the WORST, I can see why they made them, but like meh. Who do they think they're saving from converting here?

I dunno, I find it sorta cute. Didn't know it was a trend tho.

Uh huh, what Chromatica land gave you this color wheel? Anyway, with limited options, I choose yellow-orange

I dunno who I paid off, but glad I did. Y'all be grateful THIS is the look I went with, I'll tell you that. Do I get bonus for all the pedestrian looks I've already served or what?

Yeah. There’s a strong sense of futile-ness, but since nothing is happening now - I see no reason not to proceed and have a chance to get things to happen. Let’s go.

Do you mean filibuster legislation or the subsequent ones dems would pass after that. They would have no leg to stand on to stop changes to the full buster, but they’ll surely get involved in legislation, but they can’t shut it all down, it’s not their place, and they know it - even as right leaning as they are. We need to kill it.

It's so reprehensible. The fact that over 70 million people voted for a man who endorsed this type of behavior. We cannot ignore words, micro-aggressions, actions or policy when it comes to hate. Violence like this is created when a society embraces and openly endorses such hate. I am just so sad.

The issue at hand is how to treat trans kids in school with regards to sports. These are not professionals and I don't think it honestly is worth considering anything accept allowing all kids to equally participate. Kids should be allowed to play the sports they want as themselves. If those sports are separated by gender, then so too, should they be allowed to play according to their gender identity. The second discussion, about the fairness of trans people playing sports is complicated, but often simplified by people trying to exclude trans folk. They focus on specific incidents of a trans athlete 'overperfomlng' or very small studies which focus on some very particular criteria which illuminates trans advantage. When we think about the great athletes of any given sport we accept, almost without hesitation, that they are the best because they've earned it. But how exactly did they earn it? Let's talk through this because I think it helps make this debate much clearer. How do athletes become great athletes? Here are two key ways: Training. How did they manage to train, dedicate so much time to training, who helped them and so on? Often, these answers start young and come with economic assistance and privilege. Do we devalue the athlete who had rich parents who paid for them to have the best trainers and resources growing up compared to the poor athlete who just played when they could growing up? We don't, we just accept that they're both now on 'equal footing' and allow them to play as such. Skill. What develops skill? Practice without question. But, depending on the sport, many other specific physical attributes. People who excel at running might have a physiology which produces 15% more of a specific chemical or muscle which allows them to run faster. A swimmer might have a bone structure which allows them to move just a bit faster in water. These are advantages individuals are born with regardless of gender. They are unique and they are natural. Among the cisgendered, if anything, they are praised. How do we separate athletics? Do we split out basketball leagues for certain heights, no. Do we separate swimmers based on their bone structure, no. Do we test the DNA of each individual athlete to evaluate their advantages, no. We have chosen to frequently separate kids by gender as some grand equalizer. It is not, people are wholly and completely unique and come with their own set of circumstances and biology which will help or hamper them at any particular sport. We've never taken the time to break that down in the name of 'fairness' before and the desire to do so now is born out of transphobic fear. I'm not saying our current sports systems are perfect, they're not - but they have separated people, especially kids, by gender and NOT by their natural skills or privilege. So there is absolutely no reason to do so now. Here are some links that might be very helpful: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trans-girls-belong-on-girls-sports-teams/ https://www.aclu.org/news/lgbt-rights/four-myths-about-trans-athletes-debunked/ One quote from the SA article that is really important: The third topic is how we approach these subjects and how we treat people who have differing views and when we make space to try to educate people who might be spouting transphobic talking points without understanding that they are doing that. @Starboy - I understand your argument and why you are concerned for 'fairness' in sports. However, as I hope my message and links above illustrate: 'fairness' has never been the concern of most sports, never mind in schools. Excluding trans kids, black kids or anyone else is built on a fear of cis (mostly white) people wanting to maintain their power. I hope that taking in what everyone has posted, what I've linked and the opinions of trans people can help guide you to a better understanding of the issue. if you have an issue with 'natural advantage' and 'fairness' in sports, that has nothing to do with trans people. Sports can never be fully equal, because people are all unique. Don't forget that one person with some minor physical advantage can still easily lose for a million other reasons, most of which have nothing to do with physical prowess. I think it's good that we can have discussions like this here and try to educate, but I do think there is a limit. If everyone is telling you that you're transphobic (or something similar) and you've already (respectfully) shared your opinion, it's time to take a seat and listen. Try to understand the reasons you're being seen this way and if you still can't have your mind changed, realize that you're hurting others even if you disagree. Don't continue to argue and repeat your claims, all they do is harm. This site will protect and defend trans people, so please do not continue to perpetuate the exclusion of trans people from any part of society.

Going through all of this now, will post an update in a bit.

Fixed it

Hater

Really great article and super informative on both Elliot's journey and the work that needs to be done all across the world. It's so terrible how much anti-trans rhetoric has been standardized and it's going to take a lot of effort to break it down and build a better society.

I mean, we could always just skip this round.

I'm sticking with not over yet, even though it seems less and less likely. But I think they're going to try and do the tour and maybe do some promo around then. It might just be US dates tho.

This probably first and foremost.

Oh yes OF COURSE.

In love with @blue's rankings, I'll keep a list of my Oscar films with reactions too. Lemme edit my post above.

Hi Popsters, So, our first official competition has come to a close and we have 8 amazing winners! Each winner can send me a personal message on here and we can talk logistics! I will need an address to ship the package to you. I can't 100% promise delivery if a country decides to take them as contraband, but I hope no one really cares about a package of Oreos. Congrats and thanks everyone for participating! We'll surely have more competitions and such in the future, although maybe less with physical prizes. Please congratulate our winners and post any suggestions for future competitions you would like!

The way we're pretending we don't know she has has a whole album coming out in a few months

There are some technical reasons to do so here as well (we're on the exact same platform), but it's mostly for discoverability. Joining a thread 600 pages long is already a tall order. Joining one 2600 pages deep is like insane. I think this allows to both historically preserve the threads in time, which is nice while making it slightly less scary for people to join. Plus, it's better for SEO to have more well-visited topics than just a few. Also, very happy I added this erase colors button.

So quick

Queue: No Gaga, no ratings. But maybe a point to be made, ha.