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On 9/17/2024 at 9:33 AM, Aloe said:

Wait what boat ride is this it’s just full of gaga songs 

Haha,  yeah. NYC DJ Ty Sunderland runs Gayflower boats all summer - with at least one Gaga boat each year. I go to several each year (Gaga, Brat and Pride boats this summer). They're a good time. If you're ever in NYC during the summer, a must do!

He's a Gaga Stan and almost always plays Gaga's national anthem at this point on every boat (unless it's someone like Beyonce and then they'll play her version, but for people like Charli they still play Gaga's).

On 9/16/2024 at 12:30 PM, Arturo said:

Gaga could do at least 2 SoFi stadium shows (100k-140k attendees depending on the seating configuration). Possibly 3.

Taylor did 6 shows and Beyoncé did 3. Not sure why Gaga opted for Dodger Stadium  It was absolutely horrific getting in and out of that place and its so rundown. 

It was so bad. We eventually just gave up and walked a mile away to be able to call an Uber.

PS on Gaga touring in general. She's definitely a bit behind Bey and Pink in their most recent tours, but I don't think she falls behind them on interest level or ability. Bey's last tour came after her biggest album in a while and it supersized that tour a bit. Gaga could easily match it next year, if she wants to. She might do the same markets / same shows per market - but she'll be able to sell out 50 stadium shows even if LG-7 is Chromatica-sized.

If LG-7 blows up, I bet she could do 75+. The movie won't hurt either. 

On 9/16/2024 at 11:20 AM, BenG said:

yellow shirt guy wbk

Says someone who has met me 

On 9/16/2024 at 4:37 AM, Leptine said:

 

I'm actually in this video, just barely 

I'll put this in a spoiler tag for anyone that doesn't want to be depressed by JFAD projections. But BoxOfficePro revised their OG estimate for JFAD.

On 9/12/2024 at 1:45 PM, Sun said:

A couple things-

Box Office Theory is pretty much ATRL for box office people. They are a group of movie stans that have been doing tracking for years, if not decades at this point. Used to be Box Office Mojo forums until IMDB bought them up. Some of them also have actual insider data and info. Believe it or not but they are likely where industry names like Deadline get their projections from. 

Empire City used to be a part of the forum but got tossed out and banned for being incendiary and insensitive. He likes drama and starting/perpetuating conflict. Unfortunately he also does have insider data so he is not necessarily wrong, but he certainly would exaggerate in order to provoke. You're probably gonna see a few more inflammatory tweets from him regarding this movie, just for the attention. 

 

Yeah, he's pretty awful, but he's also well informed and has a lot of experience. I stopped following him cause he's just too much and he's rude. The numbers are concerning, but I stand by my 100+ opening. I'm not yet worried.

On 9/12/2024 at 2:44 PM, OreoÀDeux said:

Hopefully U.K. premiere goes well and the critics there are more receptive to the movie so it could build momentum close to the premiere. 

On 9/12/2024 at 12:01 PM, Matteo Remondi said:

Well the impact will be tomorrow. But yeah probably only DH will enter the top200

It'll also take a little longer because almost no one watches the ceremony anymore, it will depend if the upload to YouTube takes off / anyone talks about it after a day.

Today is the last day, so first 'rollover' day is tomorrow. I agree it shouldn't free-fall and will probably go up a little more over the week. Def pass Madonna, maybe not Justin?

On 9/12/2024 at 9:54 AM, MissAsia said:

Not happening. Taylor fans Don t care about her collaboration.. They only want reputation TV

If Taylor has a collab with Charli, it's going to be huge, lol. Not saying it would open at #1, but it'd be huge.

On 9/12/2024 at 10:32 AM, Leptine said:

Presales have improved today according to trackers. 

On 9/12/2024 at 10:44 AM, sugden said:

probably thanks to the promo

i think thats what making the pre sales not good, the promo needs to be stronger

Yeah, the promo for this movie is quite condensed and is really going into overdrive now. I am worried about the low presales, but not at the level some seem to be. Still way too early and I truly cannot see this movie opening under 100.

On 9/11/2024 at 11:18 PM, Arturo said:

People are saying Katy's speech got boo'd

It did sound like that for a second, but hard to know. 

I thought Katy, Sabrina and Chappell all killed it. Chappell most of all. 

On 9/11/2024 at 4:17 PM, Impossible Princess said:

I hope it is not true

https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2024/9/9/joker-folie-a-deux-box-office-projections-keep-falling

This is just sourcing the same account on Twitter. Ps I used to follow that account (cause I love movies and the box office), but he was so toxic and dramatic I had to unfollow him. 

Not saying the numbers are good, but don’t look to him as the bellwether. I am still expecting a 100+ opening until a much more reputable report comes out. 

On 9/11/2024 at 12:32 PM, FRANZGA said:

Wait, a Graham Norton Show guesting on September 27? 

I'm actually in London for this week, how do I get into the premiere and how do I get into this audience?

On 9/11/2024 at 1:56 PM, XXXlop said:

And what do you expect? Do you want to restrict the discussion to some chart numbers, which come out once per day, and can be discussed in only 30 minutes?

That would be pretty boring tbh. If there's a reason why this forum makes about 20 pages per day (if not more), is not only thanks to DWAS, but also thanks to JFAD.

Let's be serious, it's way more interesting to track a movie (reviews, premieres, box-office, awards, actual PROMO, interviews, etc.), than to just track a song (ergo one Spotify and one radio update per day, and that's it).

Both things are pretty compatible tho.

You should be GRATEFUL that our fanbase can be writing essays about a film, because it shows Gaga's versatility. It's way more boring staning a Beyonce or a Sabrina Carpenter, when all you have to discuss are some daily numbers.

We are literally the ONLY fanbase that can have the best of both worlds. So enjoy the fact that Gaga is about to star in one of the biggest films of the year, and let the fans talk about it (even if you don't like their opinions).

Yeah, I understand that most of those opinions are negative, but we have the right to express our opinion when things go either the right or the wrong way. So if fans are (rightfully) frustrated about this year's Gaga's biggest project, let them share their opinion. And if you don't like it, ignore and skip it, just as I did with the Iphone conversation.

Enjoy, and let others enjoy.

On 9/11/2024 at 2:30 PM, Max_Vandeburg said:

Sorry but I barely have enough time to follow this thread alone, imagine having to follow two separate threads. Yeah, I'm just going to stick with this one.

I think if we have enough activity to support multiple threads, that's a good thing. This website has been pretty small and there hasn't been a ton of Gaga news, so consolidating everything into one thread made sense. With JFAD instigating such in-depth discussion which can be annoying for some people, I agree it makes sense to push those types of conversations there. It's a lot easier to keep up with what you're interested in if multiple threads are thriving.

Of course, we can still track numbers and such here, but in depth opining is best in its own space.

On 9/11/2024 at 3:57 PM, Dirkje said:

Are you guys gonna watch the vmas tonight?

I don't even know how to watch such a thing in the year 2024 of our Godga.

PS for those wondering about presales and why: In the US almost all theatres require seat reservations and IMAX and Dolby premium screens have become the preferred method for seeing big movies. Tickets for all big movies go on weeks in advance so people can snatch opening weekend premium seats. How much of an ‘event’ a movie is can be gleaned by early presales which usually translates to opening weekend, loosely. Of course, a massive bulk of most movies comes from regular people not preordering, but for a film like this, we’d expect robust presales (even if not as much as a typical MCU/DC film).

I subscribe to AMC A-List - I can see 3 movies a week on any AMC screen in NYC - so any movie I want to see opening weekend (or first few weekends/weeks if it’s a big film) in our best IMAX screen requires buying basically immediately after they go on sale. And that has slowly translated to more and more people doing the same. Dune IMAX screens sold out (or nearly) for weeks in NYC within a day of presales.

I actually messed up and got perfect seats for the Monday IMAX early screening of JFAD, then deleted them by accident and a minute later went back and was regulated to way off to the side seating. But I have pretty good seats for Saturday night that week.

On 9/10/2024 at 4:14 PM, Hags Labs said:

The pettiness I canna-  

 

Kesha is in Katy’s MV?!?!?!

On 9/10/2024 at 2:59 PM, Imtired1616 said:

Why does this kinda sound like the end of the Chromatica Ball clip? 

 

I kinda love it tbh

Just a note that everyone is entitled to love and support any artist they like. Others don’t have to be a fan, of course, but don’t drag people/artists just because you dislike them. There’s no benefit spending time and energy arguing completely different numbers/music/performances/etc that in the end just prove that each artist is a pretty big success (and artists have highs and lows - something we should know well). We have a need to compete, especially against Gaga, and it’s really not necessary or productive.

You can always mute someone. But you can also DM them and try to be civil and see if you can get along without arguing over and over. And if you can’t, maybe that’s ok - you have differing opinions, but you can both hopefully move on and not let it eat at you.

The best thing you can ever do is be kind to someone who annoys you, try to listen and then move on and have a better rest of your day.

Also, as someone in their mid-30s I absolutely love Gaga, Bey, Adele, Taylor and many of the new girls like Billie, Chappell and Olivia. I don’t really care for Tate, Kim P or even Britney. It’s cool, happy for them anyway. I’ve never loved Katy, but I love a lot of her songs and I am mostly sad for her and hope people [like us] don’t ruin her mood (and yes, I agree she partially did this to herself by her choices, but anyway).

TMI:

On 9/9/2024 at 3:51 PM, Leptine said:

So I checked the box office board and they’re really claiming this is going to flop based on presales, not sure if they’re reliable 

On 9/9/2024 at 3:52 PM, ConnorFilm said:

Would be unprecedented after the first film’s mammoth success. We also aren’t factoring walk-in business. A lot of people don’t buy tickets weeks in advance. 

On 9/9/2024 at 5:52 PM, Leptine said:

It’s not really unprecedented but definitely unexpected for this specific movie, in the board they keep claiming it’s enough time to detected in the past the movies who have flopped, they’re keep insisting this is doing bad, again I don’t know about box office (except the basic) so I don’t know if they’re reliable. 

On 9/9/2024 at 8:51 PM, nydedan said:

fwiw, the methodology these boxoffice tracking "expects" use is basically Pythoning or even manually counting the seats sold in their selected theaters (usually some sample theaters near them or easy to obtain numbers from) every several hours and comparing the numbers to a set of "comps" (comparable movies) within thr same time frame eg. Day1 of pre-sale. The results of this method especially in early tracking days could deviate significantly from the actuals and even 10 more seats sold could seemingly lift it from doom to boom area. So I would suggest we take any info before one week before Oct 4 with a grain of salt. 

Be real, how many people we know in real life would buy movie tickets ONE month in advance? 

The numbers aren't great, movies like this have years and years of history to track early indicators like pre-sale numbers, but it isn't super indicative yet. This is a different type of movie than a standard action-superhero movie. The first Joker's presales started two weeks later than this as well (with the exact same opening date), so it's not easy to make a comparison. We should have a better idea in two weeks, but honestly, we're not going to have a great idea until the week before. Also worth noting, the last movie did substantially more money overseas than in the US.

That number too will really depend on the feedback the movie gets with a second wave of reviews and fan previews. It could really go any way. I still wouldn't bet against 100+ and I'm revising my estimate from 150 to 130.

On 9/9/2024 at 8:09 PM, Osama said:

Ok. Tired of meltdowns here. Anyone who wants to talk about this film should do so in a dedicated thread. Some people (like me) only care about Gaga's music career and some of you are kinda ruining the DWAS experience with pointless meltdowns every half hour. This is a chart thread and I don't see a single number in these essays that some people are pouring out here, destroying the entire meaning of this thread.

This thread basically encompasses it all, including very similar rumination on anything gaga or music. Movies are equally suitable here, but also fine if another thread takes off.

On 9/9/2024 at 10:11 PM, Doncho said:

The Weekend song sounds like a smash to me. Radios will eat it up. But I dont think it will be a threat for the #1 on WW Spotify (or at least not in its first weeks)

I think it sounds pretty good. We'll see!

On 9/8/2024 at 9:24 AM, Moonlight Shadow said:

Random theory ; Red hair on the set in Paris, what it's actually for the Chappell Roan collab ?

I don’t think any other collabs are coming this year before (or after) the LG7 lead. I could see something next year from the album. But if the Chappell collab is on her album / just a droplet - I think it’s a while away. A remix could probably drop anytime without much fanfare, but I don’t think Gaga would do a remix. 

On 9/8/2024 at 5:59 AM, Dirkje said:

 15 days already

I remember the day before the song came out you posted the Spotify top 10 and you said it would be a long time before we saw this chart without Gaga and I thought “don’t get your hopes up” and now look at us. I’m so humbled  

On 9/8/2024 at 7:33 AM, ItsGenuineGuy09 said:

 

Just a quick note that she went straight to the bottom because she went from a bunch of lead rankings to no supporting rankings. She has started to rise, but it’ll take some time- we’ll likely have to wait for the movie to open.  The switch and negative movie reaction will definitely hurt though (at least in the short term).  

On 9/6/2024 at 4:00 PM, Arturo said:

At least it feels like TEOG is remembered a bit. Y&I on the other hand

My two favorite Gaga songs 😭😭😭

On 9/6/2024 at 5:48 PM, ItsGenuineGuy09 said:

but will lg7 get a solo POP (no penis or ballad) smash hit like Toxic or Womaniser ? I doubt 💋

Well, undoubt it 

On 9/6/2024 at 3:52 PM, Imtired1616 said:

BTW was in the pits of hell on Spotify. Until it wasn't. You never know. 🤷‍♂️

Still waiting for Edge of Glory to get the Judas treatment it deserves 

On 9/6/2024 at 3:10 PM, Moonlight Shadow said:

 

The trend since covid has been lower estimates that rise over time. There is a chance the reviews hold us back, but really we should be aiming for 150+ to be a breakout success IMO. But, of course, anything over 100+ is great. 

On 9/6/2024 at 3:02 PM, admin said:

I honestly cannot imagine Gaga not being top 10. I think she should be top 5, but I’m sticking to top 10 or I’ll burn Billboard down. This is what I imagine we’ll see:

10. Justin Bieber 

9. The Weeknd

8.  Adele

7. Eminem

6. Kanye West

5. Lady Gaga

4. Drake

3. Rihanna 

2. Taylor Swift

1. Beyonce

Other people who could maybe break into the top 10: BTS, Ariana Grande, Harry Styles, Britney (if she counts), Coldplay (if they count).

 

PS. I think in 25 years Gaga will be top 3 with Taylor and Beyoncé. And in 50 she might be top 2.

On 9/6/2024 at 1:10 PM, corvus albus said:

Gaga needs to be top 15

I honestly cannot imagine Gaga not being top 10. I think she should be top 5, but I’m sticking to top 10 or I’ll burn Billboard down. This is what I imagine we’ll see:

10. Justin Bieber 

9. The Weeknd

8.  Adele

7. Eminem

6. Kanye West

5. Lady Gaga

4. Drake

3. Rihanna 

2. Taylor Swift

1. Beyonce

Other people who could maybe break into the top 10: BTS, Ariana Grande, Harry Styles, Britney (if she counts), Coldplay (if they count).

On 9/5/2024 at 3:27 PM, ViviLittleM said:

 

Tbh I think it will be Good Luck Babe after the VMAs. I think Roan is going to be the defining performance of the night and it’ll cement her stardom the way Gaga’s 2009 did (not saying it’ll be THAT good, but you never know). 
 

I think our time comes in October with radio support and Joker.