Charts Discussion - Thread of the Year ⭐️⭐️⭐️

[DonnieDarko]

1 minute ago, artgagapop said:

i kinda like it but it was a non event to the gp, i don't think Shallow even went top 10 on Itunes after it?

Yeah, I like the performance too. I don’t remember tho if it went high on iTunes afterwords, I was sleeping the whole next day. 

[ItsGenuineGuy09]

8 minutes ago, artgagapop said:

She should have launched ARUTW as a single and performed it at the grammys instead of that Shallow solo mess that no one cared about  several countries had already moved on to ARUTW anyways by that point and shallow could still had a 2nd wind after the Oscars while ARUTW was growing. Her team doesn't really seem to get the concept that you can have 2 successful songs at the same time without killing the other 

yeah a good lot of countries were well into Shallow at that point - it was already a hit and nothing stopping it. Because Shallow seerved a Just Dance/Ava Max single tea and was taking ages to take off everywhere they just decided to focus on that until it peaked in USA. 

I suppose its different in streaming era, but now the streaming era has changed to the point where people try to get two hits going within two weeks of release - i dont htink in 2018 they were quite at that stage, more one official single and tow promo singles - ARUTW was abit like  the Sour Candy rollout - but with a vertical video, and it got organically picked up.

I remember it being weirdly (in a good way) bizzare for the time hearing a GODGA song on radio and on playlists at work (thats how weird it was when it started smashing in October),so they probably had no confidence in trying to push another single in main markets. Gaga was really not that hot in 2018 and it felt like to the GP they hadnt heard her since ARTPOP, her suddenly getting Ari'd wouldve been too big a transition

Edited January 8, 2021 by ItsGenuineGuy09

[Andreu]

Certs from North America, South America, Europe, Asia and Oceania for her song  not everyone can relate

[DonnieDarko]

1 minute ago, Delusional said:

Something was very much off about this night. She seemed soooo pumped on something - definitely wasn’t drugs but maybe it was just the post-Carino situation, she did not seem in the right state of mind. 

From what people were saying they broke up a day earlier.

[artgagapop]

ok i just looked and it seems Shallow went #1 on Itunes after the grammys her power! 
But the impact was nothing compared to the Oscar performance 

[BenG]

Grammy and Oscar Shallow vocals were really not it ngl

[ItsGenuineGuy09]

1 minute ago, Andreu said:

Certs from North America, South America, Europe, Asia and Oceania for her song  not everyone can relate

how can GODVA get certs from taiwan (and switzerland)... GODGA is long overdue these countries lol... MR must be like 4xPlat there and Taiwan stanned ASIB (and probably chromatica lbr)

[Fame Romance]

Not Katy getting 2 Platinum and a silver single from her flop era 

Witness was an underperformance at worst, she really fell into oblivion with Smile  

[Andreu]

2 minutes ago, ItsGenuineGuy09 said:

how can GODVA get certs from taiwan (and switzerland)... GODGA is long overdue these countries lol... MR must be like 4xPlat there and Taiwan stanned ASIB (and probably chromatica lbr)

Iirc, Ava went to Taiwan late 2019 for a performance and they gave her a couple certs while she was there.

[artgagapop]

btw i can't believe just years ago we were praying for MR to get a top 10 peak after the superbowl because it looked like that could have been Gagas last top 10 hit and hating on her for not making a video for the "streaming smash" the cure and just a few years later we are disappointed with SLs top 5 more then likely then not top 3 and has gotten 2 #1s in 2 years, times really changes 

Edited January 8, 2021 by artgagapop

[artgagapop]

6 minutes ago, BenG said:

Grammy and Oscar Shallow vocals were really not it ngl

the fact that those vocals has soon 400m views and over 3m likes on youtube, the gp is a mess 

Edited January 8, 2021 by artgagapop

[danwasd Pronounsthey/them]

3 minutes ago, Delusional said:

Witness just had low peaks. Literally everyone knows Swish Swish and Bon Appetit, they weren’t as floppy as people think to be honest 

I can buy Swish Swish, but Bon Appétit? 

[BenG]

2 minutes ago, artgagapop said:

the fact that those vocals has soon 400m views and over 3m likes on youtube, the gp is a mess 

they really live for the faux romance

[artgagapop]

Just now, BenG said:

they really live for the faux romance

This interview having more views then certain artists mvs just because of that clickbait title 

 

[danwasd Pronounsthey/them]

Just now, artgagapop said:

This interview having more views then certain artists mvs just because of that clickbait title 

 

The origin of 

[ItsGenuineGuy09]

7 minutes ago, Delusional said:

Witness just had low peaks. Literally everyone knows Swish Swish and Bon Appetit, they weren’t as floppy as people think to be honest 

A less successful version of ARTPOP and now probably Chromatica - Katy was the 2nd most global pop girl behind Gaga for that time.

Witness era looks floppy, but because of its global dance sound it makes it a very well rounded era... Witness was solid in Europe, successful in Eastern Europe, and did well in areas of Asia.

Witness has a lot of ww certs as does artpop as will chromatica - for both singles and album, the certs are like really low sales - but if the label choose to buy them it looks a lot more successful. for example both ARTPOP and witness have more ww certs than lemonade and on par with 1989.

Edited January 8, 2021 by ItsGenuineGuy09

[artgagapop]

Just now, danwasd said:

The origin of 

iconic 

[little legend]

Is any single from Smile even Iron in the UK?

[artgagapop]

2 minutes ago, little legend said:

Is any single from Smile even Iron in the UK?

Never Really Over is gold 

[BenG]

2 minutes ago, Delusional said:

Not even gone Teabag String yet babe 

Ooh I love the British-ness of this cert