Charts Discussion - Thread of the Year ⭐️⭐️⭐️

[danwasd Pronounsthey/them]

41 minutes ago, ... said:

Already joined entelastreep as the third member on my special list

they're on strike two for me 

[danwasd Pronounsthey/them]

DOUBLE POST BC SHITTY CONECTION IGNORE THIS THX YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING BYEEEEEEE 

Edited January 18, 2021 by danwasd

[thetea]

Just now, Delusional said:

I still don’t understand Smile era and how much of a mess it actually was. They filmed Champagne Problems music video in summer of 2019, didn’t release until a year later. HIH filmed in summer of 2019 too, then they dropped the video in winter ??? Like ?? Why withhold content that long. This is why I’m hopeful Gaga truly did half finish some Chromatica videos before quarantine chile 

I hope Katy has a good full plan for KP6 though. She deserves success again chile 

She needs her Emancipation Of Mimi moment. She needs to reinvent herself for it to work though 

[Krazy]

2 minutes ago, thetea said:

Wait why didn't Capitol do this for all the Smile songs?

Because they said "enough" and stopped doing this:

[thetea]

What if Gaga released Chromatica I, Chromatica II and Chromatica III three months apart starting late 2019. She could do that then release it as one and combine the sales for higher sales, profit margin, and times platinum.

[EnigmaticAndroid PronounsFat/Fatty]

32 minutes ago, Delusional said:

Bon Appetit wasn’t a flop Jesus. Literally everyone knows the song same with swish swish - witness era just had awful peaks 

THIS THIS THIS THIS. I have no real stock in Katy, but the idea that Witness was an absolute mega-flop isn't entirely true. Chained to the Rhythm did well even if it was front-loaded and Swish Swish and Bon Apple Teeth pulled cute numbers. The thing that killed Katy was public perception and press. Tbh, her Spotify streams were honestly not that bad:

Chained to the Rhythm- nearly 450M

Swish Swish- 330M+

Bon Appetit- just over 200M

 

Edited January 18, 2021 by EnigmaticAndroid

[Krazy]

1 minute ago, thetea said:

What if Gaga released Chromatica I, Chromatica II and Chromatica III three months apart starting late 2019. She could do that then release it as one and combine the sales for higher sales, profit margin, and times platinum.

Because all the interludes would count separately, there is no such thing as adding their units 

[BenG]

1 minute ago, thetea said:

What if Gaga released Chromatica I, Chromatica II and Chromatica III three months apart starting late 2019. She could do that then release it as one and combine the sales for higher sales, profit margin, and times platinum.

Robyn did that with Body Talk.

The units for each album would be very low though. The full LP will have sales cannibalised and less hype when released. 

[thetea]

26 minutes ago, little legend said:

I think they are really bad if we have to compare them with a Katy Perry song to make them look good

I swear being a gaga stan includes knowing how to be shady towards everyone else

[boobatella PronounsShe/Her]

5 minutes ago, Delusional said:

I still don’t understand Smile era and how much of a mess it actually was. They filmed Champagne Problems music video in summer of 2019, didn’t release until a year later. HIH filmed in summer of 2019 too, then they dropped the video in winter ??? Like ?? Why withhold content that long. This is why I’m hopeful Gaga truly did half finish some Chromatica videos before quarantine chile 

I hope Katy has a good full plan for KP6 though. She deserves success again chile 

I actually really enjoy Harleys In Hawaii and it’s a perfect summer bop to listen to while going on a road trip with your friends, but why on earth did they release it in winter 

[danwasd Pronounsthey/them]

1 minute ago, ... said:

Robyn did that with Body Talk.

The units for each album would be very low though. The full LP will have sales cannibalised and less hype when released. 

Miley was planning sth on the lines too during 2019-2020, iirc

(well, she in fact released the She Is Coming EP) 

[little legend]

1 minute ago, thetea said:

I swear being a gaga stan includes knowing how to be shady towards everyone else

Thats actually trueespecially towards our beloved Katy Perry

[EnigmaticAndroid PronounsFat/Fatty]

3 minutes ago, thetea said:

She needs her Emancipation Of Mimi moment. She needs to reinvent herself for it to work though 

She needs to have a cute singer songwriter moment. Her type of fluffy pop will never do well unless there's another shift in what's popular, literally the only reason Stupid Love was able to have any success in America is because Gaga released it. She needs to release a critically-liked album that shows a different side of her and has some HAC crossover hits with strong, thoughtful writing.

[thetea]

Just now, EnigmaticAndroid said:

She needs to have a cute singer songwriter moment. Her type of fluffy pop will never do well unless there's another shift in what's popular, literally the only reason Stupid Love was able to have any success in America is because Gaga released it. She needs to release a critically-liked album that shows a different side of her and has some HAC crossover hits with strong, thoughtful writing.

She should go back to her rock roots. The rock inspired sound of OOTB was nice and was so 2000's. Or maybe she should do something no one expects. She's a good lyricist 

[little legend]

2 minutes ago, donatellab said:

I actually really enjoy Harleys In Hawaii and it’s a perfect summer bop to listen to while going on a road trip with your friends, but why on earth did they release it in winter 

Harleys In Hawaii,365 , Never Really Over are so good. I'm shocked that they flopped. At this point everything that Katy touched becomes a flop. She could release Bad Romance and it would not even had charted

[ItsGenuineGuy09]

4 minutes ago, thetea said:

What if Gaga released Chromatica I, Chromatica II and Chromatica III three months apart starting late 2019. She could do that then release it as one and combine the sales for higher sales, profit margin, and times platinum.

No the way she did it was the best, her team just went all in for first week, as its her trump card/strength. The delay and no promo single built so much hype, but beyond that nothing happened, and it created a frontloaded effect WW. However, that was great in particular for the Spotify streams and also the peaks (GP care about that the most unlike forum gays).

If they're doing a B side and there's going to be no chance of a rollout again, they should repeat that but with better post release care. I'd rather them wait tho and do a BTW sized rollout like fauxsiders promised 

[danwasd Pronounsthey/them]

1 minute ago, donatellab said:

I actually really enjoy Harleys In Hawaii and it’s a perfect summer bop to listen to while going on a road trip with your friends, but why on earth did they release it in winter 

Because in Hawaii there's not the classical four-season-pattern, but a two-season one: kau (aka ~summer, from may to october) and hooilo (aka ~winter, from november to april). So, in short, they released the single in summer.

Truly only a mastermind would come with such a complex elaborate plan, Ms. Nespresso wishes 

[danwasd Pronounsthey/them]

1 minute ago, little legend said:

Harleys In Hawaii,365 , Never Really Over are so good. I'm shocked that they flopped. At this point everything that Katy touched becomes a flop. She could release Bad Romance and it would not even had charted

The way you did not mention Small Talk from all those droplets 

[thetea]

2 minutes ago, little legend said:

Thats actually trueespecially towards our beloved Katy Perry

and Taylor Swift. Do you think Taylor Swift can become a legend in the future? I know her sales are unmatched by anyone except Adele but that doesn't necessarily show positive public status and what the GP's general consensus of her is

[thetea]

2 minutes ago, ItsGenuineGuy09 said:

No the way she did it was the best, her team just went all in for first week, as its her trump card/strength. The delay and no promo single built so much hype, but beyond that nothing happened, and it created a frontloaded effect WW. However, that was great in particular for the Spotify streams and also the peaks (GP care about that the most unlike forum gays).

If they're doing a B side and there's going to be no chance of a rollout again, they should repeat that but with better post release care. I'd rather them wait tho and do a BTW sized rollout like fauxsiders promised 

Yes I want that. She should do a BTW rollout, but she should release droplets before that like unreleased demos, Babylon early version etc. I still don't get why she hasn't released the early version, Shazam literally recognises it or why it hasn't leaked