Charts Discussion : DWAS / Anticipation of LG7 lead

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On 10/8/2024 at 9:32 PM, Moonlight Shadow said:

He was trully the best producer on it. She should have gave him the full thing to make tbh

I think same

[ViviLittleM]

On 10/8/2024 at 9:35 PM, Gaga Banana said:

JFAD OST is not on UK midweeks, it may chart in few markets low region. It is not pushed and as others mentioned it is mostly covers of old songs. If there was more original music, it could make some numbers on streaming. 

I think soundtracks arent charting on album charts 

[derpmonster Pronounshe/they]

On 10/8/2024 at 12:25 PM, Replay said:

bestie it's 2024, its time to give up stan'd narrative about labels and artists deciding playlist

Wasn't this pretty much confirmed by some reporting a few years ago?  I'm sure the platforms have editorial control and an image to maintain but I'm pretty sure you can pay-to-play(list).

Unlike radio/airplay, there are no laws preventing payola for streaming playlists. I think it's just naive to believe that big companies and labels would "do the right thing". 

Even where it's illegal to outright pay for plays (radio), labels and artist teams try to covertly influence stations with merch and gifts. No reason they wouldn't do that with streaming where there's no accountability or transparency into the process. 

Edited October 8 by derpmonster

[Replay]

On 10/8/2024 at 9:43 PM, derpmonster said:

Wasn't this pretty much confirmed by some reporting a few years ago?  I'm sure the platforms have editorial control and an image to maintain but I'm pretty sure you can pay-to-play(list).

Unlike radio/airplay, there are no laws preventing payola for streaming playlists. I think it's just naive to believe that big companies and labels would "do the right thing". 

There are some politics probably that can influence it a but I doubt you can just flatout pay for it (they probably have tons of curators who come up with playlisting together so you can't just bribe everyone like radio programmers), if it worked like that im sure Katy would buy it considering how low she dropped chasing for a hit. Also playlisting mostly seems reasonable to the demand. Also for example Paris Hilton would probably buy #1 on TTH if it was as simple as stans imagine

Edited October 8 by Replay

[Gaga Banana]

On 10/8/2024 at 10:38 PM, ViviLittleM said:

I think soundtracks arent charting on album charts 

You are right, I don’t know though if the OST is having enough units to chart. It is mostly if the physicals are high. Gaga didn’t post about it. 

[derpmonster Pronounshe/they]

On 10/8/2024 at 12:46 PM, Replay said:

There are some politics probably but idk if it worked like that im sure Katy would buy it considering how low she dropped chasing for a hit. Also playlisting mostly seems reasonable to the demand. 

Well two things: streaming services do have a reputation to maintain. They have the right to say no to a flop's money. It used to be a lot more obvious a few years ago when Drake was on every single playlist and cover despite not that much demand. 

Also, Capitol didn't have unlimited budget for Boaty. The fact that some of her massive flops even got a placement on TTH is a big deal. Capitol isn't going to keep bleeding money. 

 

That said, for smaller playlists, I'm sure it's more organic/editorial. But there's 100% money involved.

[Imtired1616]

On 10/8/2024 at 3:00 PM, Ayobabylon said:

Praying first that song is not visual dependent n can survive own its own without any expensive or controversial visuals

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Again, this doesn't mean mv should be bad bc ik gaga is a top tier visual artist but I just want the song to survive streaming/spotify era of music which is not dependent on visuals anymore AMEN

 

Why did you hide the content? 

[Replay]

On 10/8/2024 at 9:51 PM, derpmonster said:

Well two things: streaming services do have a reputation to maintain. They have the right to say no to a flop's money. It used to be a lot more obvious a few years ago when Drake was on every single playlist and cover despite not that much demand. 

Also, Capitol didn't have unlimited budget for Boaty. The fact that some of her massive flops even got a placement on TTH is a big deal. Capitol isn't going to keep bleeding money. 

 

That said, for smaller playlists, I'm sure it's more organic/editorial. But there's 100% money involved.

I'm sure Katy herself would invest money if it was about budget  she literlay run to luke only cause her stupid fanbase deluded her that's the way to have a hit.

When that drake thing happened he was at the peak popularity.

Idk to me HM is kinda obvious example it's about curators and demand. Like HM isn't a single or main project and it only got on TTH because of DWAS smashing. Side project HMH didn't get on TTH until it showed some legs and increase.

So usually you either have demand so u debut there (and stay if u show stability) or you work ur way up there.

As I said it can probably be influenced a bit, but more via campaigning than sending money directly, Perhaps they can cash out few people until they are exposed but it's a board panel of people so it's not as simple as radio stadion having few programmers .

Like look at DWAS, it had decent playlist debut because of two big names, but when it started going viral everywhere it shoot up in playlisting which makes sense. Hope HQ/JFAD doesn't affect LG7 lead playlisting 

[JennyWayne Pronounsshe/her]

The Spotify counter decided to collapse and die

[Delusional Pronouns🥇He/Him]

On 10/8/2024 at 8:30 PM, ReadyGaga said:

 

 

Who is this pls

[Matteo Remondi]

On 10/8/2024 at 10:09 PM, JennyWayne said:

The Spotify counter decided to collapse and die

With a smile

[VoldeLorde PronounsHe/Him]

On 10/8/2024 at 2:11 PM, ViviLittleM said:

do y'all know if J:fad soundtrack is in stores in the US?

I saw a vinyl at my local Walmart 

Spoiler

I did not purchase 

[Dean Judaster]

This is unprecedented. All songs sold out on Spotify

[Delusional Pronouns🥇He/Him]

On 10/8/2024 at 9:09 PM, JennyWayne said:

The Spotify counter decided to collapse and die

[Arturo]

Please stop talking about **** and start talking about our next IFPI entry

[Arturo]

Not sure if posted

Billboard Radio Songs

14. Die With A Smile (+1)

[ARTPOP]

On 10/8/2024 at 11:11 PM, Delusional said:

Who is this pls

Madeon I think 

[Harry Kat PronounsHe/him]

Greek sites reporting about Gaga being disappointed with the negative reception of Joker and not being able to get an Oscar + asking Tarantino for a role  she should sue that columnist and the site 

[Gagalvaro]

Daily streams for Harlyhit today?

[Hags Labs]

On 10/8/2024 at 5:53 PM, Gagalvaro said:

Daily streams for Harlyhit today?

Most likely above 143 for sure