Charts Discussion : DISEASE out this Friday!

[kékette]

iTunes France:
#1 (=) Céline Dion - Hymne à l'amour (Live aux Jeux Olympiques de Paris 2024 / Live from the Olympic Games Paris 2024)

 

 

Wesh. Where is "Mon Truc en Plumes (Live aux Jeux Olympiques de Paris 2024 / Live from the Olympic Games Paris 2024) " ?!

Edited October 12 by kékette

[Gabi]

The problem of JFAD is that it p*ssed off all the target audience of this movie. Joker fans want to see Joker to become a real villian, Liddos want to see Gaga shine in a big budget movie and GP just  want an easy entertaining film, It failed to satisfy no one by making it a very personal and artistic film that only focused on Arthur's mental state.

This is definitely a movie that leans towards art films like Dancer in the shadow, Poor Things or The Zone of Interest than a DC  comic film, this kind of movies are meant to be less sucessful in Box Office since the plots are usually rolled out in a cryptic/hypothetical way. I had a very similar feeling when I watched Spencer, which has no real storyline at all and only protrays the sorrow of Princess Diana.

Edited October 12 by Gabi

[nydedan PronounsHe/Him]

not to suggest that JFAD is Blade Runner level but I ChatGPT'd it a little bit and found a lot of interesting things in common:

 

Spoiler

Initial Reception:

• Box Office Struggles: The film grossed around $33 million worldwide, which was disappointing considering its budget of around $30 million (before marketing). Released just after E.T. (which was a massive success), Blade Runner faced tough competition and did not resonate with mainstream audiences.
• Critical Divide: Early reviews were mixed. Some critics appreciated its visual style and production design but found the plot to be slow, confusing, and overly dark. Its philosophical themes, rooted in existentialism and postmodernism, were not widely embraced by casual moviegoers. Many were expecting a traditional action-packed sci-fi film, and Blade Runner’s slow pace and complex narrative didn’t fit that mold.

Reasons for the Poor Reception:

• Misleading Marketing: The film was marketed as a more conventional science fiction action movie, similar to Star Wars, but its actual tone was much more somber and reflective.
• Complicated Storyline: Adapted from Philip K. Dick’s Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, the film was a noir-inspired exploration of themes like identity, humanity, and corporate dystopia. This complexity left many viewers confused or unsatisfied.
• Competition: It was released around the same time as films like E.T. and The Thing, which appealed more to mainstream audiences at the time.

How It Became a Classic:

• Cult Following: Over the years, Blade Runner developed a dedicated following. Its groundbreaking special effects, philosophical depth, and unique visual style — a mix of noir, cyberpunk, and dystopian futures — captivated sci-fi fans and scholars.
• Home Video and Re-releases: The film’s reputation grew significantly after its release on VHS and later DVD. People had more time to appreciate its details, aesthetics, and philosophical underpinnings.
• Multiple Versions: Several versions of the film were released, including the Director’s Cut in 1992 and the Final Cut in 2007. These versions removed the studio-imposed voiceovers and restored Ridley Scott’s intended vision, which was darker and more ambiguous, particularly regarding the fate of Deckard (played by Harrison Ford) and whether he is a replicant.
• Influence on Sci-Fi: Over time, Blade Runner has been recognized as highly influential on the cyberpunk genre and on filmmakers. Its depiction of a dystopian future, its visual effects, and its exploration of human identity and artificial intelligence were ahead of their time and have inspired countless films, TV shows, video games, and even architecture.

my point is, sometimes BOTH critics and audience could be wrong wrong. only time could tell.

Edited October 12 by nydedan

[GraceRandolph]

On 10/11/2024 at 8:55 PM, nydedan said:

not to suggest that JFAD is Blade Runner level but I ChatGPT'd it a little bit and found a lot of interesting things in common:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

Initial Reception:

• Box Office Struggles: The film grossed around $33 million worldwide, which was disappointing considering its budget of around $30 million (before marketing). Released just after E.T. (which was a massive success), Blade Runner faced tough competition and did not resonate with mainstream audiences.
• Critical Divide: Early reviews were mixed. Some critics appreciated its visual style and production design but found the plot to be slow, confusing, and overly dark. Its philosophical themes, rooted in existentialism and postmodernism, were not widely embraced by casual moviegoers. Many were expecting a traditional action-packed sci-fi film, and Blade Runner’s slow pace and complex narrative didn’t fit that mold.

Reasons for the Poor Reception:

• Misleading Marketing: The film was marketed as a more conventional science fiction action movie, similar to Star Wars, but its actual tone was much more somber and reflective.
• Complicated Storyline: Adapted from Philip K. Dick’s Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, the film was a noir-inspired exploration of themes like identity, humanity, and corporate dystopia. This complexity left many viewers confused or unsatisfied.
• Competition: It was released around the same time as films like E.T. and The Thing, which appealed more to mainstream audiences at the time.

How It Became a Classic:

• Cult Following: Over the years, Blade Runner developed a dedicated following. Its groundbreaking special effects, philosophical depth, and unique visual style — a mix of noir, cyberpunk, and dystopian futures — captivated sci-fi fans and scholars.
• Home Video and Re-releases: The film’s reputation grew significantly after its release on VHS and later DVD. People had more time to appreciate its details, aesthetics, and philosophical underpinnings.
• Multiple Versions: Several versions of the film were released, including the Director’s Cut in 1992 and the Final Cut in 2007. These versions removed the studio-imposed voiceovers and restored Ridley Scott’s intended vision, which was darker and more ambiguous, particularly regarding the fate of Deckard (played by Harrison Ford) and whether he is a replicant.
• Influence on Sci-Fi: Over time, Blade Runner has been recognized as highly influential on the cyberpunk genre and on filmmakers. Its depiction of a dystopian future, its visual effects, and its exploration of human identity and artificial intelligence were ahead of their time and have inspired countless films, TV shows, video games, and even architecture.

[OliverDespechao Pronounshe/him]

On 10/11/2024 at 10:55 PM, nydedan said:

not to suggest that JFAD is Blade Runner level but I ChatGPT'd it a little bit and found a lot of interesting things in common:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

Initial Reception:

• Box Office Struggles: The film grossed around $33 million worldwide, which was disappointing considering its budget of around $30 million (before marketing). Released just after E.T. (which was a massive success), Blade Runner faced tough competition and did not resonate with mainstream audiences.
• Critical Divide: Early reviews were mixed. Some critics appreciated its visual style and production design but found the plot to be slow, confusing, and overly dark. Its philosophical themes, rooted in existentialism and postmodernism, were not widely embraced by casual moviegoers. Many were expecting a traditional action-packed sci-fi film, and Blade Runner’s slow pace and complex narrative didn’t fit that mold.

Reasons for the Poor Reception:

• Misleading Marketing: The film was marketed as a more conventional science fiction action movie, similar to Star Wars, but its actual tone was much more somber and reflective.
• Complicated Storyline: Adapted from Philip K. Dick’s Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, the film was a noir-inspired exploration of themes like identity, humanity, and corporate dystopia. This complexity left many viewers confused or unsatisfied.
• Competition: It was released around the same time as films like E.T. and The Thing, which appealed more to mainstream audiences at the time.

How It Became a Classic:

• Cult Following: Over the years, Blade Runner developed a dedicated following. Its groundbreaking special effects, philosophical depth, and unique visual style — a mix of noir, cyberpunk, and dystopian futures — captivated sci-fi fans and scholars.
• Home Video and Re-releases: The film’s reputation grew significantly after its release on VHS and later DVD. People had more time to appreciate its details, aesthetics, and philosophical underpinnings.
• Multiple Versions: Several versions of the film were released, including the Director’s Cut in 1992 and the Final Cut in 2007. These versions removed the studio-imposed voiceovers and restored Ridley Scott’s intended vision, which was darker and more ambiguous, particularly regarding the fate of Deckard (played by Harrison Ford) and whether he is a replicant.
• Influence on Sci-Fi: Over time, Blade Runner has been recognized as highly influential on the cyberpunk genre and on filmmakers. Its depiction of a dystopian future, its visual effects, and its exploration of human identity and artificial intelligence were ahead of their time and have inspired countless films, TV shows, video games, and even architecture.

my point is, sometimes BOTH critics and audience could be wrong wrong. only time could tell.

Spoiler

 joking bestie  

 

 

 

[GraceRandolph]

The Joker IMDb poster being a frame that isn't even in the movie.

[Lazz Monster Pronounshe/him]

Die With A Smile has surpassed Beautiful Things and is now the song with most days at #1 on Spotify Norway in 2024 

Spotify Norway - Most Days at #1 in 2024

#1. (+1) Die With A Smile - 36 days
#2. (-1) Beautiful Things - 35 days
#3. 24/7 - 31 days
#4. A Bar Song - 26 days
#5. Soldat RMX, Sigg - 24 days

DWAS now has this achievement in 2 countries: Norway and New Zealand 

[Sun]

Oh my, single digit 2nd weekend incoming 💀 ($8-9M, -77%)

[ConnorFilm]

On 10/11/2024 at 10:23 PM, Sun said:

Oh my, single digit 2nd weekend incoming 💀 ($8-9M, -77%)

It’s J’OVER

[Sun]

DWAS is around 800M by now on Spotify/YT.. In less than 2 months 

 

The duality of it all lmaoo

[kékette]

123k in 17H

 

[GraceRandolph]

On 10/11/2024 at 10:23 PM, Sun said:

Oh my, single digit 2nd weekend incoming 💀 ($8-9M, -77%)

[FRANZGA PronounsHe/Him/His]

On 10/12/2024 at 9:53 AM, Gabi said:

The problem of JFAD is that it p*ssed off all the target audience of this movie. Joker fans want to see Joker to become a real villian, Liddos want to see Gaga shine in a big budget movie and GP just  want an easy entertaining film, It failed to satisfy no one by making it a very personal and artistic film that only focused on Arthur's mental state.

This is definitely a movie that leans towards art films like Dancer in the shadow, Poor Things or The Zone of Interest than a DC  comic film, this kind of movies are meant to be less sucessful in Box Office since the plots are usually rolled out in a cryptic/hypothetical way. I had a very similar feeling when I watched Spencer, which has no real storyline at all and only protrays the sorrow of Princess Diana.

This is TRUE.. 

I think it also tried to appeal to broadway/musical audience but they also said "NOPE"

Leaving no demographic satisfied

[Ayobabylon PronounsHe/him]

This is me listening to RadarRad

 

 

 

Wrong post not getting off my keyboard so posting this

 

 

 

[Ayobabylon PronounsHe/him]

Anyways why are we still talking about jfad? That film is so old we have moved on 

[GraceRandolph]

On 10/11/2024 at 11:59 PM, Ayobabylon said:

Anyways why are we still talking about jfad? That film is so old we have moved on 

No moving on until the lead single announcement.

 

[Daddy]

Iceland
1 (1) 8 Die With A Smile (4 Weeks at #1)

[Daddy]

Reel update (*10 hours*)

close to you - 100k (+8.2k) 

[kékette]

France: No "Harlequin" in Top 20 Albums this week, so less 2,5k units (aka physical CDs & vinyls since the album did like 3 premium streams), it's much less than LFS.

I think I have some missing information... something is wrong, or maybe it's just a flop.

 

[Andreu]

On 10/12/2024 at 7:36 AM, kékette said:

France: No "Harlequin" in Top 20 Albums this week, so less 2,5k units (aka physical CDs & vinyls since the album did like 3 premium streams), it's much less than LFS.

I think I have some missing information... something is wrong, or maybe it's just a flop.

 

Tony smashed not gaga