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On 10/21/2023 at 11:40 AM, DonnieDarko said:

Yeah if only world wouldn’t collapse during Chromatica’s opening week and if Gaga would actually be less human and more of a greedy pop star (which some of ya’ll wanted), Chromatica would achieve much much more. We wouldn’t have comparisons like „MR lasting as long as ROM” etc. 

 

chromatica had a huge debut despite world events

the music just didn't hit and has bad replay value and its as simple as that. a few performances on daytime TV would not have changed anything in the long term.

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On 10/21/2023 at 2:25 PM, Applause said:

chromatica had a huge debut despite world events

the music just didn't hit and has bad replay value and its as simple as that. a few performances on daytime TV would not have changed anything in the long term.

Incorrect on many things. And your post reminded me why I have you on ignore, so bye.

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On 10/21/2023 at 1:02 PM, monketsharona said:

I honestly don't think Gaga will release pure rock album

 

Tbh she never released something “pure” with AP-J-C albums, they always kept music pop and mainstream in order to be recognizable as Lady Gaga’s music (with some EDM/country/90s house etc. influences).

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On 10/21/2023 at 2:52 PM, Thrasher said:

Tbh she never released something “pure” with AP-J-C albums, they always kept music pop and mainstream in order to be recognizable as Lady Gaga’s music (with some EDM/country/90s house etc. influences).

And that’s what she will do in the future, I’m sure.

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On 10/21/2023 at 1:25 PM, Applause said:

chromatica had a huge debut despite world events

the music just didn't hit and has bad replay value and its as simple as that. a few performances on daytime TV would not have changed anything in the long term.

I love ROM and as a fan used the album but the numbers are in such a state what could she have done for it to be decent?  Tbh Rena is  going the same way, pop-bop albums really struggle, but at least Rena got the full milking 

On 10/21/2023 at 1:52 PM, Thrasher said:

Tbh she never released something “pure” with AP-J-C albums, they always kept music pop and mainstream in order to be recognizable as Lady Gaga’s music (with some EDM/country/90s house etc. influences).

Which is what hindered both Joanne and ChromeTank. They needed to go all out with the concept 

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On 10/18/2023 at 4:34 AM, Ayobabylon said:

there are like 2-3 venues where that happened bc gaga stage was not gaint like renaissance tour stage and gaga prices were cheaper

if gaga charged what bey did her attendence would've been affected drastically.

And she made $450M from north american alone 

Gaga’s highest gross from north america is $85M 

She is like madonna but madonna was super star in Europe and latam 

She has one of the highest grosses from khia european countries where Touring was not even strong e.g her highest grossing show us from helsinki ($12M) thats so random 

She was not very strong in US as well 

Also

rogers centre gross gaga : 47k : 5M

beyoncé 38k×2 = 9M × 2

Metlife stadium

gaga : 53k : 8.4M

beyoncé: 52k × 2 : 16.5N × 2

Its the highest grossing show ever at metlife

gaga tickets at std were open for till the last day but beyoncé tickets sold out in few hours of presale and were not made available again 

in Tottenham as well beyoncé 5 shows avg is 47k ($8M each) and gaga is 46k (4.7M each)

There is nothing wrong in accepting that her Touring power has room to grow 

in 2012 gaga soldout london stadium in 50 secs and 1m tickets were in demand

Underwhelming eras have effected her starpower she needs a good impactful era like her early stuff to again reach the Touring peak

She is a stronger Touring power than Katy, rihanna, adele, etc 

she is on p!nk level bey and tay are far ahead

 

 

On 10/18/2023 at 4:34 AM, Ayobabylon said:

 

Like I said, if Gaga wasn't on Beyoncé's level when it comes to touring, she wouldn't have brought more people to the same venues where Beyoncé also performed on several dates. The average ticket price for her residency in Las Vegas is 40% more expensive than the average ticket price for the Renaissance tour and even though all 64 shows she has done there to date have been sold out, she would have no problem charging more for the Chromatica Ball ticket, but chose not to do so because fans of the six 2020 dates had already purchased at pre-pandemic prices and it would be unfair to fans who purchased tickets for the 2022 dates.

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On 10/21/2023 at 9:25 AM, Applause said:

chromatica had a huge debut despite world events

the music just didn't hit and has bad replay value and its as simple as that. a few performances on daytime TV would not have changed anything in the long term.

Ayobabylon dupe? He says this same nonsense based only on supposition.

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On 10/21/2023 at 2:37 PM, ItsGenuineGuy09 said:

I love ROM and as a fan used the album but the numbers are in such a state what could she have done for it to be decent?  Tbh Rena is  going the same way, pop-bop albums really struggle, but at least Rena got the full milking

Rena is a super loud, super gay, super garish album like btw. I wouldn't expect it to have the longevity it has.

Chromatica is extremely commercial and basic and people dont want that from Lg. People like her for strong ballads (Shallow, MR) or edgy electronic music (BR, BM).

Tl;dr - the album just needs to be good and serve LADY GAGA. chromatica was giving Walmart own-brand pop music that comes in a tin. 

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On 10/21/2023 at 3:37 PM, ItsGenuineGuy09 said:

I love ROM and as a fan used the album but the numbers are in such a state what could she have done for it to be decent?  Tbh Rena is  going the same way, pop-bop albums really struggle, but at least Rena got the full milking 

Which is what hindered both Joanne and ChromeTank. They needed to go all out with the concept 

Never change, little managers, never change. 

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Why can't some members just accept that other artists can be stronger on some metrics than Gaga? :mess:

Beyoncé clearly proved she's a bigger touring force than Gaga with both Formation Tour and Renaissance Tour doing respectively much better than Joanne Tour and TCB and no excuse/nitpicking will change that, and that's ok

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On 10/21/2023 at 4:24 PM, China said:

Ayobabylon dupe? He says this same nonsense based only on supposition.

Not a dupe accusing someone of being a dupe. What’s worse, this dupe is also as nonsensical as every other troll we got rid off in the past. 

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On 10/21/2023 at 7:50 PM, China said:

 

Like I said, if Gaga wasn't on Beyoncé's level when it comes to touring, she wouldn't have brought more people to the same venues where Beyoncé also performed on several dates. The average ticket price for her residency in Las Vegas is 40% more expensive than the average ticket price for the Renaissance tour and even though all 64 shows she has done there to date have been sold out, she would have no problem charging more for the Chromatica Ball ticket, but chose not to do so because fans of the six 2020 dates had already purchased at pre-pandemic prices and it would be unfair to fans who purchased tickets for the 2022 dates.

Are you really stupid or your hate for beyoncé is that strong

bc selling out theaters at higher price is way more easy than a 60k capacity stadium

If you ever compare average prices 

Theaters> arenas> stadiums 

Plus what you said is not true vegas gaga avg is 290

Beyoncé avg for NJ is $310 with 2 shows $33M gross

Vegas stadium, sofi stadium, Atlanta, Chicago each date has $300+ avg

That is an insane insane average for stadiums even arenas

Europe is obviously cheaper than US 

Except madonna and beyoncé nobody has even charged more than $150 avg there

And speaking of same venues they barely had same venues bc beyoncé was perfoming in bigger NFL stadiums and doing two or 3 shows where gaga attendence is higher

No she is not a bigger Touring force then beyoncé and even taylor won't be if she didn't shift her career with 7 albums back to back

 

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On 10/21/2023 at 4:49 PM, Fame Romance said:

Why can't some members just accept that other artists can be stronger on some metrics than Gaga? :mess:

Beyoncé clearly proved she's a bigger touring force than Gaga with both Formation Tour and Renaissance Tour doing respectively much better than Joanne Tour and TCB and no excuse/nitpicking will change that, and that's ok

Bey is huge, successful, a touring force and an artist. Full stop. The delusional nonsense in here, like, I can’t. Lol

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On 10/21/2023 at 7:54 PM, China said:

Ayobabylon dupe? He says this same nonsense based only on supposition.

So everyone sensible who says the truth is my dupe? get over it 

Ask anyone outside delusional fans they will say same bc if dwyw was there in ARTPOP rn it would be outstreaming chromatica on daily bases

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