Fame Romance Popster for Sale 57,181 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Wait Netherlands?? It’s #5 on AM + #144 3rd WoC there and new peak methinks 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Applause The Popster 145 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/21/2023 at 11:40 AM, DonnieDarko said: Yeah if only world wouldn’t collapse during Chromatica’s opening week and if Gaga would actually be less human and more of a greedy pop star (which some of ya’ll wanted), Chromatica would achieve much much more. We wouldn’t have comparisons like „MR lasting as long as ROM” etc. chromatica had a huge debut despite world events the music just didn't hit and has bad replay value and its as simple as that. a few performances on daytime TV would not have changed anything in the long term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnieDarko A Popster Is Born 18,408 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/21/2023 at 2:25 PM, Applause said: chromatica had a huge debut despite world events the music just didn't hit and has bad replay value and its as simple as that. a few performances on daytime TV would not have changed anything in the long term. Incorrect on many things. And your post reminded me why I have you on ignore, so bye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Applause The Popster 145 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 lol the delusion is strong with that one. love seeing all albums except her worst/most recent in her spotify daily top 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrasher Popstanne 8,166 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) On 10/21/2023 at 1:02 PM, monketsharona said: I honestly don't think Gaga will release pure rock album Tbh she never released something “pure” with AP-J-C albums, they always kept music pop and mainstream in order to be recognizable as Lady Gaga’s music (with some EDM/country/90s house etc. influences). Edited October 21, 2023 by Thrasher 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnieDarko A Popster Is Born 18,408 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/21/2023 at 2:52 PM, Thrasher said: Tbh she never released something “pure” with AP-J-C albums, they always kept music pop and mainstream in order to be recognizable as Lady Gaga’s music (with some EDM/country/90s house etc. influences). And that’s what she will do in the future, I’m sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsGenuineGuy09 A Popster Is Born 12,808 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/21/2023 at 1:25 PM, Applause said: chromatica had a huge debut despite world events the music just didn't hit and has bad replay value and its as simple as that. a few performances on daytime TV would not have changed anything in the long term. I love ROM and as a fan used the album but the numbers are in such a state what could she have done for it to be decent? Tbh Rena is going the same way, pop-bop albums really struggle, but at least Rena got the full milking On 10/21/2023 at 1:52 PM, Thrasher said: Tbh she never released something “pure” with AP-J-C albums, they always kept music pop and mainstream in order to be recognizable as Lady Gaga’s music (with some EDM/country/90s house etc. influences). Which is what hindered both Joanne and ChromeTank. They needed to go all out with the concept Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Banned 735 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/18/2023 at 6:46 AM, BenG said: You really do live in your own bubble No, Beyoncé is extremely limited, I said what I said. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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China Banned 735 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) On 10/18/2023 at 4:34 AM, Ayobabylon said: there are like 2-3 venues where that happened bc gaga stage was not gaint like renaissance tour stage and gaga prices were cheaper if gaga charged what bey did her attendence would've been affected drastically. And she made $450M from north american alone Gaga’s highest gross from north america is $85M She is like madonna but madonna was super star in Europe and latam She has one of the highest grosses from khia european countries where Touring was not even strong e.g her highest grossing show us from helsinki ($12M) thats so random She was not very strong in US as well Also rogers centre gross gaga : 47k : 5M beyoncé 38k×2 = 9M × 2 Metlife stadium gaga : 53k : 8.4M beyoncé: 52k × 2 : 16.5N × 2 Its the highest grossing show ever at metlife gaga tickets at std were open for till the last day but beyoncé tickets sold out in few hours of presale and were not made available again in Tottenham as well beyoncé 5 shows avg is 47k ($8M each) and gaga is 46k (4.7M each) There is nothing wrong in accepting that her Touring power has room to grow in 2012 gaga soldout london stadium in 50 secs and 1m tickets were in demand Underwhelming eras have effected her starpower she needs a good impactful era like her early stuff to again reach the Touring peak She is a stronger Touring power than Katy, rihanna, adele, etc she is on p!nk level bey and tay are far ahead On 10/18/2023 at 4:34 AM, Ayobabylon said: Like I said, if Gaga wasn't on Beyoncé's level when it comes to touring, she wouldn't have brought more people to the same venues where Beyoncé also performed on several dates. The average ticket price for her residency in Las Vegas is 40% more expensive than the average ticket price for the Renaissance tour and even though all 64 shows she has done there to date have been sold out, she would have no problem charging more for the Chromatica Ball ticket, but chose not to do so because fans of the six 2020 dates had already purchased at pre-pandemic prices and it would be unfair to fans who purchased tickets for the 2022 dates. Edited October 21, 2023 by China Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Banned 735 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/21/2023 at 9:25 AM, Applause said: chromatica had a huge debut despite world events the music just didn't hit and has bad replay value and its as simple as that. a few performances on daytime TV would not have changed anything in the long term. Ayobabylon dupe? He says this same nonsense based only on supposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Applause The Popster 145 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/21/2023 at 2:37 PM, ItsGenuineGuy09 said: I love ROM and as a fan used the album but the numbers are in such a state what could she have done for it to be decent? Tbh Rena is going the same way, pop-bop albums really struggle, but at least Rena got the full milking Rena is a super loud, super gay, super garish album like btw. I wouldn't expect it to have the longevity it has. Chromatica is extremely commercial and basic and people dont want that from Lg. People like her for strong ballads (Shallow, MR) or edgy electronic music (BR, BM). Tl;dr - the album just needs to be good and serve LADY GAGA. chromatica was giving Walmart own-brand pop music that comes in a tin. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenG Popster for Sale 41,787 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 At least it comes in a tin, I guess? Not just plastic wrap. Spoiler 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnieDarko A Popster Is Born 18,408 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/21/2023 at 3:37 PM, ItsGenuineGuy09 said: I love ROM and as a fan used the album but the numbers are in such a state what could she have done for it to be decent? Tbh Rena is going the same way, pop-bop albums really struggle, but at least Rena got the full milking Which is what hindered both Joanne and ChromeTank. They needed to go all out with the concept Never change, little managers, never change. Spoiler 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fame Romance Popster for Sale 57,181 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) Why can't some members just accept that other artists can be stronger on some metrics than Gaga? Beyoncé clearly proved she's a bigger touring force than Gaga with both Formation Tour and Renaissance Tour doing respectively much better than Joanne Tour and TCB and no excuse/nitpicking will change that, and that's ok Edited October 21, 2023 by Fame Romance 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnieDarko A Popster Is Born 18,408 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/21/2023 at 4:24 PM, China said: Ayobabylon dupe? He says this same nonsense based only on supposition. Not a dupe accusing someone of being a dupe. What’s worse, this dupe is also as nonsensical as every other troll we got rid off in the past. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayobabylon PronounsHe/him Popster to Popster 3,908 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/21/2023 at 7:50 PM, China said: Like I said, if Gaga wasn't on Beyoncé's level when it comes to touring, she wouldn't have brought more people to the same venues where Beyoncé also performed on several dates. The average ticket price for her residency in Las Vegas is 40% more expensive than the average ticket price for the Renaissance tour and even though all 64 shows she has done there to date have been sold out, she would have no problem charging more for the Chromatica Ball ticket, but chose not to do so because fans of the six 2020 dates had already purchased at pre-pandemic prices and it would be unfair to fans who purchased tickets for the 2022 dates. Are you really stupid or your hate for beyoncé is that strong bc selling out theaters at higher price is way more easy than a 60k capacity stadium If you ever compare average prices Theaters> arenas> stadiums Plus what you said is not true vegas gaga avg is 290 Beyoncé avg for NJ is $310 with 2 shows $33M gross Vegas stadium, sofi stadium, Atlanta, Chicago each date has $300+ avg That is an insane insane average for stadiums even arenas Europe is obviously cheaper than US Except madonna and beyoncé nobody has even charged more than $150 avg there And speaking of same venues they barely had same venues bc beyoncé was perfoming in bigger NFL stadiums and doing two or 3 shows where gaga attendence is higher No she is not a bigger Touring force then beyoncé and even taylor won't be if she didn't shift her career with 7 albums back to back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnieDarko A Popster Is Born 18,408 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/21/2023 at 4:49 PM, Fame Romance said: Why can't some members just accept that other artists can be stronger on some metrics than Gaga? Beyoncé clearly proved she's a bigger touring force than Gaga with both Formation Tour and Renaissance Tour doing respectively much better than Joanne Tour and TCB and no excuse/nitpicking will change that, and that's ok Bey is huge, successful, a touring force and an artist. Full stop. The delusional nonsense in here, like, I can’t. Lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayobabylon PronounsHe/him Popster to Popster 3,908 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/21/2023 at 7:54 PM, China said: Ayobabylon dupe? He says this same nonsense based only on supposition. So everyone sensible who says the truth is my dupe? get over it Ask anyone outside delusional fans they will say same bc if dwyw was there in ARTPOP rn it would be outstreaming chromatica on daily bases 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnieDarko A Popster Is Born 18,408 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 And not ayo and china having a mid off. Lmao. You can’t make this up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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