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On 1/4/2024 at 1:37 PM, Dean Judaster said:

BTW having 6 entries in Gaga's top 20 daily songs :giveup:

BTW really is her magnum opus (so far).

A #1 hit, a top 3 hit, two other top 10 hits, a top 40 hit that had huge cultural impact. Truly her magnum opus indeed. music video mv GIF by Lady Gaga

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On 1/4/2024 at 4:43 PM, Fame Romance said:

If You and I and MTN weren’t such streaming bombs it’d be 8/20 BTW songs

I can't accept that, daily streams of Y&I, MTN and TEOG are rotten, her team/label has to do something, they should be doing 4x their current daily streams, especially TEOG which was a worldwide hit in 2011 and is a harmless song.

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On 1/4/2024 at 4:53 PM, SweetOreosOfHeaven said:

 

Her manager seems to be paid to be on vacation all year round, where is this song on viral playlists? It's a potential seventh single from BTW.

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On 1/4/2024 at 7:25 PM, China said:

You're getting it all wrong, I didn't say that Gaga is irrelevant, but rather that Gaga ain't cool to the R&B/Urban/Trap audience, which has been Ariana's target audience since Sweetener, due to the sound she's been putting out. She knows that this sound sticks for longer, which is why she won't let go of the bone anytime soon.

Gaga never did a proper R&B collab, the close was the R.Kelly collaboration that was 10 years ago + Videophone, you can't actually know the reaction-reception from that audience if she does a proper R&B collab with Ariana.

However if you really want to get there, you really think the real Urban audience is listening to Ariana Grande? :toofunny:

Majority of Ariana's audience is still your average white girl that think to be edgy in listening Ariana doing trendy urban stuff.

There's a reason if her music is still listed in Pop categories at the Grammys.

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https://thequorum.com/new-to-the-quorum-joker-folie-a-deux/

Analysis of J:FAD's opening week based on audience sentiment so far (taken from ATRL user MarryIllusionGlory). Things are looking very promising, as expected:

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This week, The Quorum began tracking its follow-up, JOKER: FOLIE A DEUX. DEUX certainly has big shoes to fill. And given that Warner Bros. has already been sneaking out still images a year before release, it’s clear the studio considers the film a top priority. 

Can the sequel, which is scheduled on the same date as the first film, top the original and break the October record? Let’s look at the numbers.

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While Warner Bros. has struggled with its DC properties, this superhero-adjacent property should be immune to the current superhero malaise. In fact, at The Quorum, we assigned DEUX to the Tentpole group rather than the DC/MCU group. That means DEUX sits alongside titles like TOP GUN: MAVERICK, BARBIE, and NO TIME TO DIE.

The average opening for Tentpoles is $77M, roughly $20M less than the opening for the first JOKER. That means DEUX will have to overperform against the group average. Early tracking suggests that DEUX is well positioned to do that.

Currently, interest in DEUX sits at 57% versus 50% for the group average at the same distance from release. Remarkably, DEUX ranks third among all films being tracked by The Quorum, behind DEADPOOL 3 and BEETLEJUICE 2. That’s quite an impressive start. DEUX is also easily outpacing the group averages for the theater and fee metrics. These three metrics suggest that DEUX should easily top the average $77M opening for the group.

At 35%, awareness for DEUX is quite a bit lower than the group average of 41%. How can that be? It seems strange, given that the studio has been aggressively dropping set photos over the past few months. In all likelihood, the title is suppressing awareness. Had the film been called JOKER 2, the score would likely have been higher. That shouldn’t be a problem as the campaign kicks in its first trailer. Over time, people will become accustomed to the title. That’s why we don’t see the low awareness as being a problem. Also, low awareness and high interest is not a bad place to be. That means the people who know about the film want to see it. As awareness grows, the film should be well positioned to rival the first film’s opening.

 

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On 1/4/2024 at 4:46 PM, ConnorFilm said:

A #1 hit, a top 3 hit, two other top 10 hits, a top 40 hit that had huge cultural impact. Truly her magnum opus indeed. music video mv GIF by Lady Gaga

If she had invited guest artists for remixes like all pop girls did in 2011 (Katy, Britney, Rihanna, Kesha), TEOG would have hit #1, Y&I would have gone Top 3, Judas would have gone Top 5 and MTN would have had a shot at the top 10. There was much more to be milked by her label.

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On 1/4/2024 at 5:56 PM, SweetOreosOfHeaven said:

 

She's also in a better position in daily artists than she was pre-Xmas (on 15th of november, before xmas artists started taking over, she was #67 vs. #55 now) but it could just mean she was one of the artists benefited by the supposed new-year algorithm boost. We'll see if it keeps up. 

#48 vs #31 on the same dates one year ago

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On 1/4/2024 at 8:05 PM, BenG said:

#48 vs #31 on the same dates one year ago

Wasn't that mostly because of Bloody Mary though?

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On 1/4/2024 at 8:07 PM, SweetOreosOfHeaven said:

Wasn't that mostly because of Bloody Mary though?

Is the gap only 2M streams between those positions? I have no clue how many streams separate the positions on that chart

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On 1/4/2024 at 8:12 PM, BenG said:

Is the gap only 2M streams between those positions? I have no clue how many streams separate the positions on that chart

No idea either :icant:

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@BenG wouldn't be surprised though. 

The difference between Billie #18 and Nicki #29 is about 2.5M streams and the lower you go on the chart the smaller the difference is between artists, which can also be seen here.

I wouldn't necessarily count out your theory though, it's very possible. But it also is possible that just how last year Gaga had Bloody Mary and an increase in her catalogue, this year she had fortnite and some other viral moments in her discography which are contributing to her recent increases. 

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On 1/4/2024 at 8:20 PM, SweetOreosOfHeaven said:

@BenG wouldn't be surprised though. 

The difference between Billie #18 and Nicki #29 is about 2.5M streams and the lower you go on the chart the smaller the difference is between artists, which can also be seen here.

I wouldn't necessarily count out your theory though, it's very possible. But it also is possible that just how last year Gaga had Bloody Mary and an increase in her catalogue, this year she had fortnite and some other viral moments in her discography which are contributing to her recent increases. 

Yeah I remember ARTPOP and Joanne got huge boosts out of nowhere in Jan, then they gradually lost streams over the year, viral boosts aside.

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On 1/4/2024 at 4:58 PM, Leptine said:

Gaga never did a proper R&B collab, the close was the R.Kelly collaboration that was 10 years ago + Videophone, you can't actually know the reaction-reception from that audience if she does a proper R&B collab with Ariana.

However if you really want to get there, you really think the real Urban audience is listening to Ariana Grande? :toofunny:

Majority of Ariana's audience is still your average white girl that think to be edgy in listening Ariana doing trendy urban stuff.

There's a reason if her music is still listed in Pop categories at the Grammys.

Ariana has scored 5 top 15 hits on Rhythmic radio with her last two albums including 4 top 10 hits on the format, so she is definitely welcomed by that audience. At no point did I say that she is played on Urban radio, but rather that she has free pass on the R&B/Hiphop/Trap genre (aka Rhythmic).

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Most viewed female artists on YouTube in 2023 :

#1 Karol G - 4.993B views

#2 Shakira - 3.166B views

#3 Taylor Swift - 3B views

#4 Marilia Mendonça - 1.651B views

#5 Miley Cyrus - 1.479B views

#6 Rihanna - 1.379B views

#7 Lady Gaga - 1.306B views

#8 Ariana Grande - 1.293B views

#9 Selena Gomez - 1.169B views

#10 Maria Becerra - 1.156B views

 

Current daily views :

Karol G - 15M

Taylor Swift - 8.5M views

Shakira - 7.1M views

Marilia Mendonça - 4.7M views

Lady Gaga - 4.2M views

Ariana Grande - 3.9M views

Miley Cyrus - 3.6M views

Rihanna - 3M views

Maria Becerra - 3M views

Selena Gomez - 2.8M views


Gaga is SLAYING YouTube 


Bonus : Bloody Mary Tik Tok Remix is again close to the top 20 for the most viewed English videos with 600K+ daily views :rip:

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