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On 10/16/2023 at 7:38 PM, DonnieDarko said:

BTW was rotting along with Joanne and ARTPOP in terms of daily streams. It was not enjoying longevity. All it needed was a viral moment and it had one.

Exactly, the only reason why Chromatica is so low is because it never had a tiktok moment, but if that happens somehow then prepare yourself to hear people switching on miss Chroma and then also remind themselves how It's Gaga's most praised album critically.

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On 10/17/2023 at 12:20 AM, FRANZGA said:

$93M North America and $30M outside NA??

Sounds like Taylor Swift indeed

Taylor is more Global than any popstar atm 

With eras tour she will have highest grossing european leg, asian leg and potentially oceana leg of all time

No popstar is & was bigger than what she is rn esp in USA

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On 10/17/2023 at 1:46 AM, LGMonster95 said:

BTW was rotting along with Joanne and ARTPOP in terms of daily streams. It was not enjoying longevity. All it needed was a viral moment and it had one.

Born this way is packed with quality music and i won't be surprised if another track from it catches momentum and it deserves to be her most successful album and it would've been a lot bigger if it had commerial sound like 21 or red about love/heartbreaks but at the same time gaga being her own creative force makes her so much unique but it definitely effects her commerial power... speaking of ARTPOP it also have few bops which can catch momentum

Joanne & chromatica meanwhile will never catch momentum bc chromatica is not good and joanne has a very geriatric tone to be gen z likings

Id love to have some asib track gain momentum esp inla, is that alright? or i dont know what love is

bc asib needs like 400k more streams to be charting on billboard 200

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On 10/17/2023 at 2:44 AM, Stargazer said:

Not the JLo sneak :dead: @Mario Spears

Why gaga is missing? Where is hype for lg-7 

Im scared bc i really don't see hype

our positions era debut is imminent but I just hope it serves longetivity like positions 

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On 10/17/2023 at 8:59 AM, Ayobabylon said:

No popstar is & was bigger than what she is rn esp in USA

As much as I hate to say it, Morgan Wallen is bigger right now. Yes, country artists are popstars, Morgan especially.

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On 10/17/2023 at 12:40 PM, corvus albus said:

As much as I hate to say it, Morgan Wallen is bigger right now. Yes, country artists are popstars, Morgan especially.

He is not bigger than taylor 

Midnights broke his record of longest charting album inside top 10 this decade with 51 weeks and she has like 8 albums charting inside top 50 no one ever did it like her 

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On 10/17/2023 at 9:11 AM, Ayobabylon said:

He is not bigger than taylor 

Midnights broke his record of longest charting album inside top 10 this decade with 51 weeks and she has like 8 albums charting inside top 50 no one ever did it like her 

You're misremembering things. His Double Album spent over 85 weeks in the top 10, Midnights can't have broken that record. She just ended a 15-week streak at #1 for his new album with a vinyl release. The album that is at #1 again this week.

 

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It is quite weird that apart Taylor no other female is actually dominating the charts the last 3 years. The power play between female artists is quite uneven, Taylor became more successful and the others kinda regressed chart-wise. 10 years ago Taylor was successful but there was strong competition on the charts by female artists.  

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On 10/17/2023 at 9:43 AM, Gaga Banana said:

It is quite weird that apart Taylor no other female is actually dominating the charts the last 3 years. The power play between female artists is quite uneven, Taylor became more successful and the others kinda regressed chart-wise. 10 years ago Taylor was successful but there was strong competition on the charts by female artists.  

Releasing consistently is very important in the streaming era, and they're all just on hiatus or selling make-up, leaving the entire playground for Taylor and Taylor alone. There really hasn't been a lot (or any) effort from her peers. Most are away from music, and even the ones that aren't like Beyoncé, Miley and Adele don't make an effort into promoting their eras at all. 

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On 10/16/2023 at 9:16 PM, LGMonster95 said:

Exactly, the only reason why Chromatica is so low is because it never had a tiktok moment, but if that happens somehow then prepare yourself to hear people switching on miss Chroma and then also remind themselves how It's Gaga's most praised album critically.

I agree PopGa outside TFM has bad longevity (Joanne could've been really big moment for her but it missed at least it will never be outstreamed by witness). even BM was classic Gaga huge peak then a free-fall - but with BTW, it was a tried and tested smash era which sold 7m copies. Chromatica wasn't exactly an on trend album when it came out 

I do question if it could ever happen for Chromatica to get decent streams, there so bad atm it would need a hell of a lot. I know stans talk about replay, but TCB most watched performances are all ARUTW and then HMH 

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Imagine if Taylor's boring music videos from Midnights had to compete for the zeitgeist with Bey's Renaissance visuals, but no she just gave us 0. Other pop girls shortcomings have really helped Taylor capture the attention of the public imo. 

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On 10/17/2023 at 2:59 PM, Ayobabylon said:

Taylor is more Global than any popstar atm 

With eras tour she will have highest grossing european leg, asian leg and potentially oceana leg of all time

No popstar is & was bigger than what she is rn esp in USA

In terms of Global success, a lot of popstars had acheived more commercial success than Taylor, especially in 2023 when music is not as profitable as last centuary. You need to keep in mind that the grossing of tours have generally increased due to inflation after pandemic.
Taylor might be the biggest popstar at this moment, but she is not bigger than Madonna or Michael Jackson back in 90s or even Gaga during 2008~2012, it's impossible to recreate that kind of global dominance in streaming era.

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40,488,576 76,029
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On 10/17/2023 at 10:18 AM, Gabi said:

You need to keep in mind that the grossing of tours have generally increased due to inflation after pandemic

The inflation effect is way overblown. You're not seeing every other artist breaking records left and right. The Eras Tour will comfortably surpass the previous record of highest grossing tour even when adjusted for inflation.

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On 10/17/2023 at 12:49 PM, corvus albus said:

You're misremembering things. His Double Album spent over 85 weeks in the top 10, Midnights can't have broken that record. She just ended a 15-week streak at #1 for his new album with a vinyl release. The album that is at #1 again this week.

 

I was talking about 2020s releases but still he is not even half as big as taylor 

No one can sell out 65 360° nfl stadiums in a day with 70k capacity and that easily could have soldout 200+ dates if she wanted

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