The Drought Era - Charts Discussion Thread

[Miaou]

GODLICE, the song that deserves Shallow’s numbers 

[OreoÀDeux Pronounshe/him]

On 7/7/2023 at 11:39 AM, Miaou said:

GODLICE, the song that deserves Shallow’s numbers 

the way this song is always my go to to test new sound equipment 

that thumping beat is so good

[little legend]

On 7/7/2023 at 12:01 PM, BenG said:

@little legend

[little legend]

The way Gaga could be the biggest pop star on the planet but she chose to release cheap songs like Stupid Love and sell Mouse Labs 

[Miaou]

The way Popa911 could be the biggest forum on the planet but Admin chose to admit cheap members like the dog 

[little legend]

On 7/7/2023 at 1:08 PM, Miaou said:

The way Popa911 could be the biggest forum on the planet but Admin chose to admit cheap members like the dog 

Still better than cheap peasant members like a certain cat 

[BenG]

On 7/7/2023 at 11:35 AM, Leptine said:

At the end the problem is not Gaga being on hiatus but the lack of moderation in this board who allow people who spent the last months trashing Gaga publicly

where?

[BenG]

On 7/7/2023 at 11:51 AM, little legend said:

The way Gaga could be the biggest pop star on the planet but she chose to release cheap songs like Stupid Love and sell Mouse Labs 

Ban yourself

[lookwhatyoumademedo]

On 7/7/2023 at 1:51 PM, little legend said:

The way Gaga could be the biggest pop star on the planet but she chose to release cheap songs like Stupid Love and sell Mouse Labs 

Gaga could have become the biggest star by not throwing her fanbase under the bus following Artpop and releasing new albums every year or so. Gaga's catalogue is really meagre. She basically released only two pop albums over the past decade. She became the GP darling with Shallow and ASIB, but the GP didn't care about Traumatica, and her fans have moved on. 

It bothers me that Gaga hasn't done anything to attract younger fans. Most of her fans are gay men who are pushing 30s. At least, Britney managed to attract younger fans with Circus before she started her flopping streak, which is why most Gaga and Britney fans are of the same age.    

Edited July 7, 2023 by lookwhatyoumademedo

[lookwhatyoumademedo]

Interscope should have forced Gaga to record a new pop album every year Rihanna-style. Imagine how huge her catalogue streams would have been. 

2012: "Neon Soul"

Direction: A blend of electronic dance music with strong elements of R&B.

Promotion: High-energy performances on late-night shows, music festival appearances, and social media interactions focusing on the album's vibrant feel.

Sales: The R&B element resonates with a broader audience, boosting sales. First week sales of 500,000 copies.

2013: "Artpop"

Direction: An experimental pop album incorporating art and technology.

Promotion: High-concept music videos, art gallery installations, and promotional events at tech companies.

Sales: Mixed reviews affect sales, but the strong fanbase ensures decent numbers. First week sales of 258,000 copies.

2014: "Radioactive Love"

Direction: A pop album with themes of toxic relationships and self-discovery.

Promotion: Dramatic, narrative-driven music videos, public appearances discussing mental health, and a promotional tour focusing on intimate venues.

Sales: Despite being slightly less successful, a massive radio hit drives the album's sales. First week sales of 350,000 copies.

2015: "Alienated"

Direction: A blend of synthpop and experimental music focusing on themes of loneliness and individuality.

Promotion: Viral social media campaigns promoting individuality, unique merchandising, and an interactive concert experience.

Sales: Its critical acclaim doesn't entirely translate into commercial success. First week sales of 300,000 copies.

2016: "Retrofuturistic"

Direction: A fusion of 70's disco and 80's synth-pop with a modern twist.

Promotion: A nostalgic marketing campaign, revival of disco culture in music videos and performances, and appearances on popular dance shows.

Sales: The nostalgic element captures a wider audience. Huge commercial success. First week sales of 550,000 copies.

2017: "Paradox Heart"

Direction: A pop album with stark contrasts, switching between ballads and high-energy dance tracks.

Promotion: Innovative dual-themed concerts representing the contrasting themes of the album, a series of heart-themed merchandise, and special releases of dance remixes.

Sales: Mixed reviews but strong fanbase support. First week sales of 400,000 copies.

2018: "Kaleidoscope"

Direction: Return to pure pop roots with vibrant, upbeat, and danceable tracks.

Promotion: High-energy live performances, colorful music videos, and a positive social media campaign focused on self-expression and joy.

Sales: Successful comeback to pop roots, highly praised by fans. First week sales of 500,000 copies.

2019: "A Star is Born" Soundtrack

Direction: A mix of pop, rock, and country in collaboration with Bradley Cooper.
Promotion: Film promotion coincides with the album. Gaga showcases her acting abilities and musical range.
Sales: Huge commercial success due to the popularity of the film. The single "Shallow" is a global hit. First week sales of 231,000 copies (actual data).
2020: "Chromatica"

Direction: A return to electro-pop music, with themes around healing and mental health.
Promotion: Virtual performances due to the global pandemic, and an emphasis on mental health awareness.
Sales: A successful return to dance-pop after the more toned-down "A Star is Born". First week sales of 274,000 copies (actual data).
2021: "Fame Monster 2.0"

Direction: A revisiting of her earlier electronic dance pop style, with a modern twist.
Promotion: Gaga organizes a special tour performing all the old hits along with the new album, reissues special editions of The Fame Monster.
Sales: High nostalgia factor ensures strong sales, fans are excited to relive the early Gaga era. First week sales of 350,000 copies.
2023: "Artpop Act II"
Direction: A continuation of the original Artpop's experimental vision, with a more mature and refined sound.
Promotion: Special "Artpop" listening parties, a curated art exhibition, and an innovative VR concert experience.
Sales: Artpop's cult following and the anticipation built around the unreleased tracks contribute to strong sales. First week sales of 400,000 copies.

 

[Mario Spears PronounsHe/Him, 22 ☆🪩 Britney/Beyonce/GaGa/CBreezy/Shakira/Doja savior 🤠COWBOY CARTER🤠]

On 7/7/2023 at 2:35 PM, lookwhatyoumademedo said:

Interscope should have forced Gaga to record a new pop album every year Rihanna-style. Imagine how huge her catalogue streams would have been. 

2012: "Neon Soul"

Direction: A blend of electronic dance music with strong elements of R&B.

Promotion: High-energy performances on late-night shows, music festival appearances, and social media interactions focusing on the album's vibrant feel.

Sales: The R&B element resonates with a broader audience, boosting sales. First week sales of 500,000 copies.

2013: "Artpop"

Direction: An experimental pop album incorporating art and technology.

Promotion: High-concept music videos, art gallery installations, and promotional events at tech companies.

Sales: Mixed reviews affect sales, but the strong fanbase ensures decent numbers. First week sales of 258,000 copies.

2014: "Radioactive Love"

Direction: A pop album with themes of toxic relationships and self-discovery.

Promotion: Dramatic, narrative-driven music videos, public appearances discussing mental health, and a promotional tour focusing on intimate venues.

Sales: Despite being slightly less successful, a massive radio hit drives the album's sales. First week sales of 350,000 copies.

2015: "Alienated"

Direction: A blend of synthpop and experimental music focusing on themes of loneliness and individuality.

Promotion: Viral social media campaigns promoting individuality, unique merchandising, and an interactive concert experience.

Sales: Its critical acclaim doesn't entirely translate into commercial success. First week sales of 300,000 copies.

2016: "Retrofuturistic"

Direction: A fusion of 70's disco and 80's synth-pop with a modern twist.

Promotion: A nostalgic marketing campaign, revival of disco culture in music videos and performances, and appearances on popular dance shows.

Sales: The nostalgic element captures a wider audience. Huge commercial success. First week sales of 550,000 copies.

2017: "Paradox Heart"

Direction: A pop album with stark contrasts, switching between ballads and high-energy dance tracks.

Promotion: Innovative dual-themed concerts representing the contrasting themes of the album, a series of heart-themed merchandise, and special releases of dance remixes.

Sales: Mixed reviews but strong fanbase support. First week sales of 400,000 copies.

2018: "Kaleidoscope"

Direction: Return to pure pop roots with vibrant, upbeat, and danceable tracks.

Promotion: High-energy live performances, colorful music videos, and a positive social media campaign focused on self-expression and joy.

Sales: Successful comeback to pop roots, highly praised by fans. First week sales of 500,000 copies.

2019: "A Star is Born" Soundtrack

Direction: A mix of pop, rock, and country in collaboration with Bradley Cooper.
Promotion: Film promotion coincides with the album. Gaga showcases her acting abilities and musical range.
Sales: Huge commercial success due to the popularity of the film. The single "Shallow" is a global hit. First week sales of 231,000 copies (actual data).
2020: "Chromatica"

Direction: A return to electro-pop music, with themes around healing and mental health.
Promotion: Virtual performances due to the global pandemic, and an emphasis on mental health awareness.
Sales: A successful return to dance-pop after the more toned-down "A Star is Born". First week sales of 274,000 copies (actual data).
2021: "Fame Monster 2.0"

Direction: A revisiting of her earlier electronic dance pop style, with a modern twist.
Promotion: Gaga organizes a special tour performing all the old hits along with the new album, reissues special editions of The Fame Monster.
Sales: High nostalgia factor ensures strong sales, fans are excited to relive the early Gaga era. First week sales of 350,000 copies.
2023: "Artpop Act II"
Direction: A continuation of the original Artpop's experimental vision, with a more mature and refined sound.
Promotion: Special "Artpop" listening parties, a curated art exhibition, and an innovative VR concert experience.
Sales: Artpop's cult following and the anticipation built around the unreleased tracks contribute to strong sales. First week sales of 400,000 copies.

 

The way u Just put It like that>>>>>>

I agree 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[Emi Pronounshe/him]

"Mine (Taylor's Version)" already #10 on AM US 

[ItsGenuineGuy09]

On 7/7/2023 at 11:43 AM, ClownOreos said:

the way this song is always my go to to test new sound equipment 

that thumping beat is so good

Chroma on dolby is so good. still it doesn't have the highs of other records but it doesnt have lows its a good overall product. On dobly chroma becomes my second fave gaga album

[lookwhatyoumademedo]

How could Gaga have managed her career after 2011 to remain the most popular pop star in the world by 2023? Describe five hypothetical scenarios in extreme detail. Analyze the main mistakes Gaga has made, and come up with alternative outcomes that would have allowed her to retain her level of popularity throughout the all these years.  

 

Lady Gaga, after her massive success in 2011, experienced some challenges in maintaining her status as the most popular pop star in the world. However, she continued to make an impact in music, fashion, and social advocacy. Her career did take a more diverse trajectory, with ventures into acting and various unique music projects, which might have deviated from a traditional pop star's path. Here are five hypothetical scenarios where she could have maintained her status:

1. Maintaining a Consistent Pop Sound

   • After her album "Born This Way" in 2011, Lady Gaga explored different musical styles in her following albums, "Artpop" (2013) and "Joanne" (2016), which received mixed reviews. A possible mistake was the significant deviation from her earlier music style. If Gaga had continued with a similar electro-pop sound and spectacle that she had been known for, her music might have been more commercially successful and maintained her popularity.
   • Alternative Outcome: Gaga could have brought in the top pop producers to keep her sound consistent, similar to what she did with "The Fame Monster." She could have incorporated new trends in pop music while retaining her core sound, rather than completely shifting styles.

2. Collaboration with Emerging and Top Artists

   • Collaboration is a powerful tool for maintaining relevance in the music industry. While Gaga did collaborate with some big names, she might have missed opportunities to work with emerging artists who later blew up, like Billie Eilish, BTS, or Ariana Grande in the early stages of their career.
   • Alternative Outcome: By collaborating with these upcoming artists, she could have introduced herself to a younger audience, thus expanding her fan base and staying in the public eye.

3. Social Media Strategy

   • Gaga was always known for her connection with fans, but as social media became more central to pop culture, maintaining this connection could have required more strategic use of these platforms. While she was active on social media, Gaga's approach was sometimes eccentric and unpredictable, which might not always resonate with a wider audience.
   • Alternative Outcome: A more engaging and fan-oriented social media strategy could have kept her followers more invested in her career. This includes more personal content, behind-the-scenes looks at her music production, and consistent interaction with fans.

4. Balancing Acting Career with Music

   • Gaga ventured into acting with the movie "A Star Is Born" in 2018, which was a critical success, but this also took time away from her music career. This could be seen as a mistake if the goal was to maintain her pop star status, as it took her out of the music scene during a period of rapid change and new talent emergence.
   • Alternative Outcome: Instead of taking a hiatus from music to act, Gaga could have balanced both her acting and music careers simultaneously. Releasing an album around the same time as the movie could have capitalized on the attention she was receiving as an actress.

5. Focusing on Global Markets

   • While Gaga had a global presence, she didn't focus as much on non-English speaking markets like Latin America or Asia, where other artists like BTS and Bad Bunny have found massive success.
   • Alternative Outcome: Gaga could have released music specifically targeted towards these markets, including collaborations with popular artists from these regions and songs in different languages. This would have expanded her global reach and kept her as a leading figure in the international music scene.

Remember, these are hypothetical scenarios and each decision an artist makes in their career has its own unique challenges and opportunities. Gaga's diverse ventures and evolving music style showcase her versatility and creativity as an artist, which might not be measured by popularity alone.

Edited July 7, 2023 by lookwhatyoumademedo

[Miaou]

The essays 

[boobatella PronounsShe/Her]

On 7/7/2023 at 3:35 PM, lookwhatyoumademedo said:

Interscope should have forced Gaga to record a new pop album every year Rihanna-style. Imagine how huge her catalogue streams would have been. 

2012: "Neon Soul"

Direction: A blend of electronic dance music with strong elements of R&B.

Promotion: High-energy performances on late-night shows, music festival appearances, and social media interactions focusing on the album's vibrant feel.

Sales: The R&B element resonates with a broader audience, boosting sales. First week sales of 500,000 copies.

2013: "Artpop"

Direction: An experimental pop album incorporating art and technology.

Promotion: High-concept music videos, art gallery installations, and promotional events at tech companies.

Sales: Mixed reviews affect sales, but the strong fanbase ensures decent numbers. First week sales of 258,000 copies.

2014: "Radioactive Love"

Direction: A pop album with themes of toxic relationships and self-discovery.

Promotion: Dramatic, narrative-driven music videos, public appearances discussing mental health, and a promotional tour focusing on intimate venues.

Sales: Despite being slightly less successful, a massive radio hit drives the album's sales. First week sales of 350,000 copies.

2015: "Alienated"

Direction: A blend of synthpop and experimental music focusing on themes of loneliness and individuality.

Promotion: Viral social media campaigns promoting individuality, unique merchandising, and an interactive concert experience.

Sales: Its critical acclaim doesn't entirely translate into commercial success. First week sales of 300,000 copies.

2016: "Retrofuturistic"

Direction: A fusion of 70's disco and 80's synth-pop with a modern twist.

Promotion: A nostalgic marketing campaign, revival of disco culture in music videos and performances, and appearances on popular dance shows.

Sales: The nostalgic element captures a wider audience. Huge commercial success. First week sales of 550,000 copies.

2017: "Paradox Heart"

Direction: A pop album with stark contrasts, switching between ballads and high-energy dance tracks.

Promotion: Innovative dual-themed concerts representing the contrasting themes of the album, a series of heart-themed merchandise, and special releases of dance remixes.

Sales: Mixed reviews but strong fanbase support. First week sales of 400,000 copies.

2018: "Kaleidoscope"

Direction: Return to pure pop roots with vibrant, upbeat, and danceable tracks.

Promotion: High-energy live performances, colorful music videos, and a positive social media campaign focused on self-expression and joy.

Sales: Successful comeback to pop roots, highly praised by fans. First week sales of 500,000 copies.

2019: "A Star is Born" Soundtrack

Direction: A mix of pop, rock, and country in collaboration with Bradley Cooper.
Promotion: Film promotion coincides with the album. Gaga showcases her acting abilities and musical range.
Sales: Huge commercial success due to the popularity of the film. The single "Shallow" is a global hit. First week sales of 231,000 copies (actual data).
2020: "Chromatica"

Direction: A return to electro-pop music, with themes around healing and mental health.
Promotion: Virtual performances due to the global pandemic, and an emphasis on mental health awareness.
Sales: A successful return to dance-pop after the more toned-down "A Star is Born". First week sales of 274,000 copies (actual data).
2021: "Fame Monster 2.0"

Direction: A revisiting of her earlier electronic dance pop style, with a modern twist.
Promotion: Gaga organizes a special tour performing all the old hits along with the new album, reissues special editions of The Fame Monster.
Sales: High nostalgia factor ensures strong sales, fans are excited to relive the early Gaga era. First week sales of 350,000 copies.
2023: "Artpop Act II"
Direction: A continuation of the original Artpop's experimental vision, with a more mature and refined sound.
Promotion: Special "Artpop" listening parties, a curated art exhibition, and an innovative VR concert experience.
Sales: Artpop's cult following and the anticipation built around the unreleased tracks contribute to strong sales. First week sales of 400,000 copies.

 

[OreoÀDeux Pronounshe/him]

I wonder if chatGPT could come up with a strategy for Miley to be able to sell albums in 2023 

[BenG]

On 7/7/2023 at 2:23 PM, ClownOreos said:

I wonder if chatGPT could come up with a strategy for Miley to be able to sell albums in 2023 

To increase album sales for "Endless Summer Vacation," Miley Cyrus can employ several strategies. Here are some suggestions:

1. Promotional Campaign: Launch an extensive promotional campaign across multiple platforms, including television, radio, social media, and streaming platforms. This campaign should highlight the unique aspects of the album, such as the themes, collaborations, or any significant achievements.
2. Engage with Fans: Actively engage with fans through social media platforms, live Q&A sessions, and exclusive content releases. Encourage fans to share their experiences and opinions about the album, fostering a sense of community and excitement.
3. Music Videos: Produce high-quality music videos for selected tracks from the album. These videos should be visually appealing, creative, and well-promoted across various channels. Engage with popular influencers or YouTube channels to feature or discuss the music videos.
4. Collaborations: Consider collaborating with other popular artists or producers to create remixes or alternate versions of album tracks. This can help expand the reach of the music to different audiences and generate buzz.
5. Tour and Live Performances: Organize a concert tour or series of live performances to promote the album. Performances can include television appearances, award shows, or even virtual concerts, depending on the prevailing circumstances. These live performances will not only generate excitement but also provide an opportunity for fans to connect with Miley Cyrus on a more personal level.
6. Limited Editions and Merchandise: Release limited edition versions of the album, including special packaging, exclusive tracks, or bonus content. Additionally, create merchandise like T-shirts, posters, or signed copies that fans can purchase alongside the album to enhance the overall experience.
7. Media Appearances: Make appearances on popular talk shows, podcasts, and radio programs to discuss the album and share personal anecdotes related to the creative process. These interviews can attract new listeners and provide deeper insights into the music.
8. Targeted Advertising: Utilize targeted advertising campaigns on platforms like social media, music streaming services, and relevant websites. Tailor the ads to specific demographics or audiences that align with Miley Cyrus's fan base to maximize their effectiveness.
9. Fan Contests and Giveaways: Hold fan contests or giveaways tied to the album's release, encouraging fans to participate and spread the word about the music. Offer exclusive prizes like meet-and-greets, signed merchandise, or concert tickets to generate excitement and engagement.
10. Reviews and Press Coverage: Seek positive reviews from reputable music critics and publications. Leverage these reviews to gain press coverage, increasing visibility and credibility for the album.

It's important to note that the success of an album relies on various factors, including the quality of the music, timing, competition, and audience preferences. Implementing a combination of these strategies can help increase the chances of selling more copies of "Endless Summer Vacation" and boosting Miley Cyrus's visibility in the music industry.

[BenG]

"Seek positive reviews from reputable music critics and publications."

[Aloe]

Praying gaga doesn’t re-record The Fame as her own version because I know the voice won’t fit at all for all her songs