sugden ARTPOPster 1,784 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 what is this dua isnt even bigger than rihanna in uk her home country Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miaou Pop-a-911-ster 31,897 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 On 4/10/2023 at 6:41 PM, lookwhatyoumademedo said: Those hits are not as massive as Dua's hits. Sis Dua’s hits are obviously massive as numbers show but saying they are bigger than Rihanna’s hits is completely delusional Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreu Pop-a-911-ster 30,391 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 do something useful and stream GOD(g)as 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookwhatyoumademedo Popster This Way 962 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 On 4/10/2023 at 8:46 PM, Miaou said: Sis Dua’s hits are obviously massive as numbers show but saying they are bigger than Rihanna’s hits is completely delusional Define "bigger." Year-end charts say otherwise. IFPI entries say otherwise (they both have three entries as lead artists despite Rihanna's career spanning 18 years). I keep hearing how "big" Rihanna is, but there's no numbers to back this up. Obviously, she has countless singles and collaborations (Nicki teas), and this helps to inflate her overall digital sales, but this doesn't make her hits bigger. Dua's IFPI entries as a lead artist: 2022: Cold Heart (#4) 2021: Levitating (#3) 2020: DSN (#5) Rihanna's entries: 2016: Work (#6) 2013: Stay (#10) 2007: Umbrella (#3) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Replay A Popster Is Born 16,337 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) this whole "lead credit" narrative is so fradulent and stans blindly using it makes no sense. if cold heart is dua's song then LTWYL is rihanna's or vice versa, just because labels are more fradulent nowadays to appropiate spotify schemes doesn't make one credit more important than the other in my opinion song is whoever is credited first and whoever's project it was for, aka who paid for all of it Edited April 10, 2023 by Replay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreu Pop-a-911-ster 30,391 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 On 4/10/2023 at 8:18 PM, Replay said: this whole "lead credit" narrative is so fradulent and stans blindly using it makes no sense. if cold heart is dua's song then LTWYL is rihanna's or vice versa, just because labels are more fradulent nowadays to appropiate spotify schemes doesn't make one credit more important than the other in my opinion song is whoever is credited first and whoever's project it was for, aka who paid for all of it Exactly, Co-lead only make sense when it's a joint album, a standalone song or when the song appears in both albums 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookwhatyoumademedo Popster This Way 962 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) When it comes to pop girl smashes, I would divide them into three categories: Monster smashes (#1 on the IFPI chart of the respective year, multiple year-end #1s, etc.): Poker Face, Tik Tok, Call Me Maybe, Bad Guy, Flowers (?). Big smashes (1-5 on the IFPI chart, a lot of top 10 entries on year-end charts): Levitating, DSN, Umbrella. Ordinary smashes: (5-10 on the IFPI chart, very few or no top 10 entries, but still a lot of YE chart entries in total): all Rihanna hits save for Umbrella. Rihanna doesn't have a single monster smash (unless you count LTWYL, in which she's merely a feature). Edited April 10, 2023 by lookwhatyoumademedo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenG Popster for Sale 41,933 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 YEC is an absolutely useless metric. Bring on certifications for lifetime performance. Rih was a Q4 release artist for the vast majority of her career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreu Pop-a-911-ster 30,391 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 society if Sine From above was a solo song 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenG Popster for Sale 41,933 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 And even using certifications, it needs to be adjusted for digital vs. streaming era. There’s a reason Billboard applies a penalty for streaming era on their all-time charts. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Replay A Popster Is Born 16,337 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) On 4/10/2023 at 8:28 PM, Andreu said: Exactly, Co-lead only make sense when it's a joint album, a standalone song or when the song appears in both albums Agree expect for the last part. Very often they even do fraudery for that if song is smash. Like One Kiss and Promises are still clearly Calvin songs despite it not being on any of his albums but they were on Dua's and Sam's. Prisoner is still Miley song despite Dua stealing it for FN, FEFE is still 6ix9ine song despite Nicki tucking it onto Queen to try to beat Travis and so on. Kim Petras will probably try to put Unholy on her album but it will still be Sam song Edited April 10, 2023 by Replay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookwhatyoumademedo Popster This Way 962 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 On 4/10/2023 at 9:28 PM, BenG said: YEC is an absolutely useless metric. Bring on certifications for lifetime performance. Rih was a Q4 release artist for the vast majority of her career. None of her major hits were released in Q4. WFL: Q3 Disturbia: Q2 Work: Q1 Diamonds: Q3 Only Girl: Q3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenG Popster for Sale 41,933 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 On 4/10/2023 at 7:35 PM, lookwhatyoumademedo said: None of her major hits were released in Q4. WFL: Q3 Disturbia: Q2 Work: Q1 Diamonds: Q3 Only Girl: Q3 I was referring to albums. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenG Popster for Sale 41,933 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Using a metric that has wildly different eligibility periods for difference songs is so laughable ngl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreu Pop-a-911-ster 30,391 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 On 4/10/2023 at 8:32 PM, Replay said: Agree expect for the last part. Very often they even do fraudery for that if song is smash. Like One Kiss and Promises are still clearly Calvin songs despite it not being on any of his albums but they were on Dua's and Sam's. Prisoner is still Miley song despite Dua stealing it for FN, FEFE is still 6ix9ine song despite Nicki tucking it onto Queen to try to beat Travis and so on. Kim Petras will probably try to put Unholy on her album but it will still be Sam song yes, you're right. I was thinking about Bang Bang, but in most cases even if the song is in both album it's clear that one artist is more the protagonist than the others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenG Popster for Sale 41,933 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 On 4/10/2023 at 7:38 PM, Andreu said: yes, you're right. I was thinking about Bang Bang, but in most cases even if the song is in both album it's clear that one artist is more the protagonist than the others. And the other is the anti-hero? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreu Pop-a-911-ster 30,391 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 We found love release date: 22/9 Diamond release date: 27/9 It can be technically Q3 but if the BB year ends in november its not like it changes much 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreu Pop-a-911-ster 30,391 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) On 4/10/2023 at 8:40 PM, BenG said: And the other is the anti-hero? yes because the other artists who do it are annoying Spoiler like that song Spoiler jk Spoiler or not Spoiler you choose Edited April 10, 2023 by Andreu 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo Popstanne 9,437 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Gaga gets f-ed by YEC all the time. If Joanne and ASIB had a full BB tracking year (ie released in mid November) they would have higher YEC positions. I know ASIB's 2019 one was good but it probably would have been #1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookwhatyoumademedo Popster This Way 962 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 On 4/10/2023 at 9:36 PM, BenG said: I was referring to albums. And we were discussing singles. Albums are definitely not Rih's strong suit so you do not want to go there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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